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Google Nexus One Phone Not an iPhone Killer?
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So one place decides it's not an iphone killer ? So what ? Thankfully we are all able to make up our own minds.
For some people, this phone may well be an iphone killer... if thy buy it over an iphone, then consider it an iphone killer.
It really is as simple as that.
People may choose this phone as it offers a more open, customisable platform with a better screen (amongst other things) than the iphone. Others may choose to stay with the rock solid locked down iphone platform and cherish the massive app store that comes with it.
But in summary, every time someone considers an iphone but purchases something else... they bought their own iphone killer.
Its nothing personal... but there have been iPhone killers out there for quite a while now....
So one place decides it's not an iphone killer ? So what ? Thankfully we are all able to make up our own minds.
For some people, this phone may well be an iphone killer... if thy buy it over an iphone, then consider it an iphone killer.
It really is as simple as that.
People may choose this phone as it offers a more open, customisable platform with a better screen (amongst other things) than the iphone. Others may choose to stay with the rock solid locked down iphone platform and cherish the massive app store that comes with it.
But in summary, every time someone considers an iphone but purchases something else... they bought their own iphone killer.
Its nothing personal... but there have been iPhone killers out there for quite a while now....
Handset makers and their respective OS makers are competing against each other. They make this clear. Verizon, with Google's and Moto's blessing it seems, has compared the Droid directly to Apple's iPhone, feeding into the "killer" expectations. Rubinstein of Palm and McNamee from Elevation Partners have talked trash about the iPhone and have pitted the Pre directly against the iPhone, also reinforcing the "killer" expectations.
It isn't just "people" that are "treating this as a game where you have to utterly defeat the other handsets." Manufacturers are doing it too.
I couldn't agree more.
It's good to see the competition improving. I'm looking forward to seeing what Apple does with the next iPhone.
You can throw in as many larger cameras as you like, etc. These other devices lack Apple's touch. Apple's touch, in terms of the ideal combination of hardware+software+app ecosystem and the ease with which the user is able to access it, is what makes devices desirable. It's one of those things that is quite difficult to quantify, but it's what defines Apple's products, right down to the last pixel. Apple's entire notion of how the user should interact with tech - the User Experience, is to this day completely different from everything else out there. It takes a lot more than raw specs to truly challenge Apple in the consumer market.
I agree. The iPhone died with the lame 3GS upgrade. Google and HTC will rule the the cell phone market in the next few years. They have the resources and the focus on one line of products. Apple is to busy with the tablet thing. They let the iPhone slip, just like they always do once they have the masses in a trance.
I remember the time when people said that about IBM, then they said it about Microsoft. There has always been a dominating company on the market that seemed to make any competition a futile effort.
But strange as it seems, eventually that big name always sank into insignificance. And it usually happened with a technological shift - IBM's mainframe empire got crushed by the PCs, and Microsoft's empire is under the threat of becoming obsolete because of the Internet and Internet-centric companies like Google.
Throughout its existence, Apple has always been a niche player with a lot of hype and press coverage.
The biggest obstacle between Apple and their grand scale success is... Apple. They are a closed shop that does not play well with others and they seriously get the entire third party ecosystem wrong. Someone once said that Apple creates platforms only by accident - while Microsoft intentionally creates platforms and not just simple products. A platform is the foundation for ecosystems.
But Apple does not really like ecosystems around their products. They want to own and control it all by themselves. They don't want to (rule and) share.
And this is why in the phone market Android will eventually win. Just like Windows in the PC market, Android is an open platform and anyone can build a phone around that software.
Sure, we haven't yet seen the end of Windows for mobile devices. But the killer argument for Android are its strong Open Source roots. And ultimately, the developers make or break a platform. Which, by the way, is another area where Apple is currently losing sympathy ever day because of their ridiculous approval process.
Anyway. The iPhone was an important product for many reasons, and it certainly had its moment of glory. However, I don't think that its momentum will last. The competition is not sleeping and especially the Android platform has that element of openness that will attract all those developers that have been pissed off by Apple's closeness and their arbitrary AppStore policies.
What the hell are you talking about?
Apple is really the only one that has a truly cohesive, usable, and attractive ecosystem. The iPhone is drawing developers like a magnet. It doesn't have crazy momentum by accident.
Just out of interest, what is "alpha build" quality about Android's ui? The notification system alone is far more informative compared to iphone os and once the application draw is opened the only difference between Android and iPhone os is that you scroll left to right on the iphone and up and down on Android.
Also with the widget system, you are only a screen lock away from info you need.
I agree to some extent but one company to succeed another has to fail. The problem for Android is that all of the available oxygen is being sucked up by RIM and Apple. The devs will run to the platform with large marketshare. For all the press that Android and Palm has received, their influence on the market share has been minimal at best.
As right now the Nexus does some things better than the iPhone: better resolution, twice the RAM, better notification system, animated wallpapers and multitasking.
I'm glad there is competition. Hopefully it will force Apple to address these absent or lacking features.
100,000 apps and rising. No end in sight for Apple's App Store.
You're out of touch with reality. Open Source means nothing when the end user ends up with crap.
-Megapixel myth, if anything the Droid is a testament to this...its still subpar to iPhone's camera
-AMOLED sucks in daylight legibility and eats power once you start displaying colours
-Pointless for the most part. Majority of routers out there are still 802.11g
-Funny...you do realize it won't actually be clocked at 1GHz right?
-First valid point but lets see what Apple does in June
Apps, wallpaper, cameras, OS...fine. Maybe what will prove important, or not, is pricing and plans, and can you make a phone call.
Will there be a pay as you go option, a choice of service providers, tiers, etc.
AT&T contracts and all that provide an opening for phones with choices.
Will there be a pay as you go option, a choice of service providers, tiers, etc.
AT&T contracts and all that provide an opening for phones with choices.
lol...statements like this make me laugh. Because Google only works on Android...there's no Browser, Browser OS, Email, Google Docs, Google Wave, Search etc to look after and HTC only manufactures a single model of smartphone on a single platform right?
Why would i as a company release a major revision to my product when the target market for it is still stuck in a 2yr contract?
Quite the pessimistic view here.
I wouldn't go making predictions just yet as it's early days. Look at how Android has to stay compatible with all the differing types of hardware and phones. Will 1 app work on each and every single phone? You talk about developers and how much easier and freedom they have. I would argue they have too much freedom. At least with the iPhone, you only have to code for 1 screen size.
You're using Windows in a comparison? What prey tell has Windows won? The bargain budget orientated PC market, yeah they certainly won that, their last results showed they were down in profits, while Apple posted another record in profits and Apple has always been about profit, what else matters? The market share argument is so 1990's now that the web is maturing. Any standards that are dependent on MS software is slowly being eroded by the Web as an alternative platform for doing work online, something which Apple takes full advantage of. They are in no position to lose, same with the iPhone.
Secondly the Application market for Android is further broken than Apple's, Piracy is rampant because of the lack of an approval and signing process, the quality of apps are much lower (because who would put in the expense for their app creation only for it to be pirated), I think the apple app store process is overblown considering the amount of apps that are available for the iPhone vs the apps that have been rejected. I'm reading on blogs that developers are pissed at Google for ignoring major issues like piracy. The grass isn't any greener over in the Android camp. Sure we're missing out on some cool apps and some decisions have been totally stupid, but the numbers keep growing and growing and developers are still writing apps for the App Store. Just don't believe everything you read in the papers (web blogs).
The iPhone still IS an important product because it's the moving target everybody is aiming for, don't assume Apple is sitting on their hands either, just because they keep mum about their product developments. Nothing ever lasts you're right but nothing ever does so no +1 insightful there for you.
Another thing, these phone companies don't offer an iPod touch competitor, very important when those people want to eventually get a phone and take their Apps with them. Apple already have a soft lock in because they have the most popular mp3 player.
The only true iPhone killer to be released this year will be.....
The next version of the iPhone! It's going to kill the sales of the 3G S!
Mark
The next version of the iPhone! It's going to kill the sales of the 3G S!
Mark
It's possible I had one in my hand over the holidays and, if it were true, I can tell you honestly its a very nice phone, but LTD is right, it isn't the sweet hardware + software combination the iPhone is. The interface is fabulous, but I found navigating a bit confusing at times, which is not a problem with the iPhone. If the iPhone didn't exist, I, and you, would probably get one, so Google aren't making a huge mistake here. I see more people out and about without an iPhone than I do with, so these people must have a need for something else, or are nuts!
"iPhone killer"? For some yes.
Yeah it takes a crappy phone with a "cute gui" to keep people hooked on the Apple logo. There is no "user experience" in the mind on an educated electronic consumer that will justify giving up a camera with an actual flash, a AMOLED display, a Snapdragon processor, MULTI-TASKING, and many more features. HTC Sence UI has a great user experience, but I guess you know that because you have tried it. Right?
Do you have an iPhone? The iPhone has multitasking, just not with 3rd party Apps, yet. I can retrieve my mail while surfing the internet and listening to music. If I'm loading a page on Safari, I can exit Safari for a moment and come back to it with it having loaded the page. Better check your facts.
I love this statement. Different resolutions have been supported in the SDK since Android 1.6:
http://developer.android.com/guide/practices/screens_support.html
There is no need for any app developed not to support multiple resolutions.
EDIT: Do you think that the iPhone will always have the same resolution screen out of interest?
No one is arguing that. With Android you can multi-task ALL apps. Try last.fm, spotify or any other streaming service whilst writing an SMS message or email.
The lack of full multitasking is a negative point with iPhone OS and what drove me away.
Maybe because other players in the market are supplying customers with much better specs in hardware and you want to stay in business? Now, ain't that funny?