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Over 900 hundred million “active iPhones” according to Tim Cook in the beginning of 2019. He can’t lie about a figure like that.

Sure, some people have multiple iPhones, but add iPads and Macs and one billion is not far off the mark.
Wow. That’s a lot of iPhones. TIL there are way more people with money to burn in the world than I realized. That’s good I suppose. Thanks for the numbers.
 
All the privacy issues Google discover about Apple, you mean?
Those are security issues. Bugs. Flaws in implementation.

There is a difference between security issues and a business model based on gathering as much personal data as possible for running a targeted ad business.
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Wow. That’s a lot of iPhones. TIL there are way more people with money to burn in the world than I realized. That’s good I suppose. Thanks for the numbers.
Yes, there are lots of people in the world who can drop ~$800 for a quality device that they use all day long as their most important computer for 2-5 years, since it’s supported with software updates all that time.

(And which still holds some resale value after years of use. iPhone is great value for money.)
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Instead of paying dividends that I have to pay taxes on, Apple should use that money to lower the prices of their products.
No. Let’s go further!

Apple should give all their products for free!

Apple’s net margin has not changed for like ten years.
 
Those are security issues. Bugs. Flaws in implementation.

There is a difference between security issues and a business model based on gathering as much personal data as possible for running a targeted ad business.
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Yes, there are lots of people in the world who can drop ~$800 for a quality device that they use all day long as their most important computer for 2-5 years, since it’s supported with software updates all that time.

(And which still holds some resale value after years of use. iPhone is great value for money.)
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No. Let’s go further!

Apple should give all their products for free!

Apple’s net margin has not changed for like ten years.

I admire the cut of your jib, sir!
 
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Tim: "Wait, what? Jeff, get in here!"

Jeff: "Yeah, Tim, I saw ... I think I have answer ... you know the new 16" MBP?"

Tim: "Oh yeah, you mean the one with the entry price of $4995?"

** high fives **
 
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No suprise, Google doesnt pay a dividend plus they dont engage in those stupid movie productions where Apple will burn money.

what are you talking about? Surely you’ve been around long enough to know the effort and money Google spent to make YouTube originals a thing?
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The ball that Steve Jobs knocked way out of the park is beginning to slow its roll. And Tim Cook doesn’t have what it takes to push it further along.

Did you read the article? This is only happening because Apple is doing massive share buybacks. If they had wanted to hoard profits they would have at least twice the cash assets they have now, way more than google.
 
Surely you jest right?

How about the cloud? Amazon will eventually spin off AWS to keep regulators off their back.
AWS market share is less than 50% with Azure apparently growing faster.

Amazon’s healthcare efforts are nowhere at the moment.

Alexa probably isn’t making them any money. And so on.

Yeah, they are big and powerful, but not a monopoly in any field.

For now, at least.
 
you’re right. It’s probably closer to 700,000 or so. I do believe a very large number of Apple users have more than one device, there are also thousands of users who have several devices. I currently have an iMac (2007), MacBook (2009) iPad Air 2, iPad 2018, iPhone 7, and two Apple TV’s that are all in regular use. People like me offset about 6-8 single device owners.
If I had to guess, I’d say it’s at least a billion by now. There were 825 million active iPhones at the end of 2017; by the end of 2018 there were 900 million, with 1.4 billion devices overall.

It all depends on how many of those 900 million active iPhones are users who have more than one active iPhone vs. how many of the 500 million other (non-iPhone) devices are owned by users who don’t own an iPhone at all. And there’s also the issue of the definition of “user”; if I have a personal iPhone and a work iPhone, am I only one user?
 
They spent a huge load of money to buy back the ownership they distributed via stocks. Thats neat and smart. They are very less likely to use any significant portion of the huge pile of cash they have, which means keep paying dividens for just keeping the money in the vault. Thats stupid. So what you do? Buy back the ownership, so they get to share less.
they have more capital than they know what to do with...
 
Many more companies will join Google over the next few years in exceeding Apple’s net cash on hand. Apple has been actively pursuing a net cash neutral position for at least the last six quarters. In other words, their goal is to reduce that $102 billion to zero. They’ve made quite a bit of progress over the last year and a half.
In terms of most valuable company on the planet, Apple has been overtaken by both Amazon and Microsoft
This is no longer true, Apple is up about $50 billion in market cap over Amazon; Microsoft leads Apple by about $20 billion atm.
 
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I’d rather see Apple reinvesting it but they’re super careful. Still the most important foundation is iOS. It took over iTunes as the main foundation years ago.

Expansion of products based on iOS or dependency of iOS devices is key. This unlocks new potential services revenues as well.

I still like pro camera area and would consider it in a heartbeat if Apple went there. I know some have concerns thats a dead area but it would flow well with iPhone as camera remains one if it’s most important features. With some Apple magic and branding Apple could reinvent this area while targeting its core users.

HomePod could be expanded. AirPods.

Would love to see Apple focus on drawing as well. They already are? Sure but an icanvas. So to me it’s about areas not products. Drawing, music, pictures, video.
 
Hear ye! Hear he! The end of Apple is nigh. Let us pray o'er a dying company. The fruity cash king is no more. /s

Apple spends so much cash on stock buybacks and I wish they would make at least one major acquisition instead if they're just going to throw away their cash pile. I'm glad Apple is returning plenty of cash to shareholders but I'd feel a lot more confident if Apple were moving into some high-growth market. At least, Apple should balance out how they spend their cash to please both types of shareholders, the conservative and aggressive ones. I'm a conservative shareholder and I appreciate the buybacks as I like my Apple dividends and the less outstanding shares there are, the better for me. However, it's just annoying to always having to hear about Apple's low- to no-growth value from Wall Street.
 
dont they mean fallen 100Bn not to 100B? I just read a report that apple now has 210bn in cash. down from its all time high of like 260 something.

as of yesterday, it say ended 3rd quarter with 210.6Bn down 6.6% and 15% YoY.
2018 peak of 285.1Bn

is the article off or just written strangely? or am I off?
 
Letting go of the fact that the editorial bias is obviously in favor of Apple here (recall the fawning when Apple passed $1 trillion market cap?), we evidently have equal parts Apple and Google fans pushing their own sides.

Let's try this: Apple, Google, and Microsoft each have more money than every member on this board - combined - will likely see or earn in their lifetimes. I could honestly care less about who's in 1st, 2nd, 3rd or even 10th place. Money is a necessary social construct designed to grease the wheels of civilization, but I'm getting quite tired of people treating the financial sector as if it was a professional football contest. The obsession with money and profit at the expense of almost everything else is responsible for so much pain and misery - not to mention the increasing inferior quality of almost every product we buy.

Shameful. There's no other word for it, but shameful.
 
The ball that Steve Jobs knocked way out of the park is beginning to slow its roll. And Tim Cook doesn’t have what it takes to push it further along.

It seems that you actually think having a ton of cash sitting there is a good thing. That's likely why Tim Cook was chosen by Steve, and you and others weren't.
 
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I am using Google service daily, I don’t feel that I am living in hell. I feel Google’s product made my life easier.

Yeah, once you don’t get health insurance anymore or a job because google has been logging your speeding habit and made the data available to your prospective employer, you’ll change your mind.

Both of which happened to people. Just google it :-/
 
Yeah, once you don’t get health insurance anymore or a job because google has been logging your speeding habit and made the data available to your prospective employer, you’ll change your mind.

Both of which happened to people. Just google it :-/

So you are using Google after all. If Google is such evil company, you won’t ask me Googling something right?

I have a simple solution, do not speed while you are driving?
 
Yes, Google, the company well known for following through with every market they enter and making it a success.
One hundred and seventeen billion dollars in cash says they've probably more success than the others.
 
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