Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Google Pays Apple $18B to $20B a Year to Be Default iOS Search Engine
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
My guess would be the number of people choosing a different browser than the default would be similar, not same, as those changing the search engine.
I'm very much against the grain.
Windows 10 user who uses Firefox as a browser and defaults to Google as a search engine.
Worldwide market share of my use case is a little over 6%.
I wonder if it would be similar to people who get store brand cereal because it is usually way outside eye level.
You are comparing quarterly revenue to an annual payment.
Apple has already planned for that (after all, they are a big part of the cause as they have always supported a longer lifetime for their devices) - that is why they are increasing their investment into services.
I used to use firefox a decade plus ago. Honestly unsure why I gravitated to chrome (in windows). I do still prefer safari on iOS.
It feels like they are missing the opportunity to use crowd sourcing and track the clicks on search answers and rank higher the sites that are more popular as answers.
I avoid Chrome or even Safari on Windows as their response time to tabbed bookmark opening is sloooooow.
Answered my own question.
Here’s what’s in services, according to Apple’s annual SEC filing:
Advertising, which includes the company’s own platforms that serve ads on Apple News and in the App Store, as well as licensing arrangements like the company’s deal with Google to be the default iPhone search engine.
And, yes, that was a quarterly number
An individual analyst gives their opinion on the deal between these two companies, and it is stated as fact? This is a garbage headline. I don’t believe the deal amount is anywhere near what they think, but that is my opinion. I don’t see how Google could possibly justify this amount being paid out annually to be the default search engine on a platform that allows users to easily change their search engine, and that also has built in privacy features. Makes no sense.
Vertical integration can be great but I’m not sure I see $10 billion or more plus costs in value for Apple to run their own search engine.
everyone should just do what i do and already know everything which completely cuts out the need for a search engine
No default: So users can't use the best engine every time, they have to select it each time. Yeah, that's user friendly.
Unrestricted ability to switch engines: Already present.
The EU coalition are morons.
It would have nothing to do with privacy.
Unless PETA gave my name or similar information to the restaurant.
they simply cut him off. what he was actually trying to say was, that Google is the best paying
It's probably more about making your own choice a first time, instead of having a choice being taken for you. You'd launch Safari the first time and it would ask you which search engine to use. You'd chose one and that's it. That's how I understood "no default" at least (but it's the first time I heard of those plans).
The EU does make good laws. The EU is in some way what the US used to be during its golden era, I think they make similar politics.
You mean *forced*. Apple makes sure you can't get apps anywhere else. The only reason I use the App Store is because I have to. I don't browse the App Store looking for apps it recommends. I go there when I need an app that I know exists. I'd get the app on Android too, if that is the phone I had. Apple isn't doing me any favors.
$99 x how many developers? Make it $199 (still very affordable). How much $$$ is that?
If developers stopped developing for iOS, wonder how fast Apple would change their mind? No apps, and users stop buying iPhones. It seems you want to treat your developers better.
It works both ways.
The difference here is that we are talking about companies with dominant positions and an agreement that is allegedly being used to help Google maintain or increase its dominance in search. It wouldn't be as much, if any, of an issue at least for regulators if Google didn't have such a large share of the search market (varies by country but globally is around 84% desktop to 95% mobile) and Apple didn't have as much share of the browser market (varies by country but globally is second only to Google's own Chrome browser).
I was not using my PETA/cheesesteak example as a privacy comparison. I was using it as an analogy of how both companies/organizations would be doing things incongruous to what each claims to stand for i.e., Apple with privacy yet giving Google a prominent position on Safari as the default search and PETA with animal rights yet giving a cheesesteak restaurant a prominent position at its convention.