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While ppl are concentrating on the hardware, the software is whats more important for change for a better UX for users to use the foldable. We cannot have the old fashion ios still on a foldable :confused:. When Microsoft released their foldable back in the day, it looked revolutionary and different and of course that ended due to price and hardware and other issues. But yea someone needs to step up with the OS to make it worthwhile for billions of ppl to ditch what their current phones do to something that will do it better. Its going to be a long road ahead for adoption since who wants to change devices every year?
 
Unlike the Macintosh, which is Apple's particular take on the Personal Computer, the iPhone is a mass market device. For Apple to meet the demands of their worldwide customers who come from different cultures and who have different needs, Apple must think outside of their cultural comfort zone!

Several concerns exist for bringing a foldable/rollable iPhone to market:

1. Foldable/rollable smartphones are a niche product category today. Who will buy them?​

The especially large Chinese market will, due to their preference for large-screen phones. According to BusinessInsider, "For many Chinese, the phone is also the first, the most important, or even the only computing device they own. "People just use them for more, and therefore appreciate the bigger screen," said Frank Gillett, an analyst at technology research firm Forrester."

2. Do foldable/rollable smartphones improve the user experience?​

Foldable/rollable smartphones do improve the user experience for those who want the biggest screen they can fit in their pocket.

3. What does it take to stay competitive in the smartphone market today?​

Apple needs to keep their iPhone lineup as interesting as their competition's. Only selling 6.1-6.7 in candybar smartphones is unimpressive when Samsung sells those and a variety of interesting foldable designs as well. Samsung's lineup is more interesting right now, so Apple needs to compete with that.

4. Don't products need to be "market-ready"?​

It's true a product should have a certain polish to it before being sold. But smartphone companies introduce new models every year, allowing them to make yearly improvements. Apple will be able to make yearly improvements on their foldable iPhones like they've been doing for their iPhone lineup every year since the very first iPhone.
 
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Oooooooo, very bitter 🤣
Now for a bit of soothing reality;
When Apple do something, they do it properly, that's why they're the market leaders 😊

Not anymore, Apple Music is light years behind Spotify…and their user base growth is lagging behind, Siri is the worst voice assistant across all platforms and always has been since its release, the camera system/post-processing of photos on iPhones has arguably been beaten in quality by competitors, and on and on.

Apple still does a lot of things better, but it ain’t like before, not even close.
 
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I am not yet impressed enough with the folding form to pay that premium, but I like the idea.

I do hear the next iPhone will have slimmer bezels by micrometers though! Oh, and buttons that aren’t really buttons… shazam!!
 
Never really saw the appeal of foldable phones until I tried one, and it's not that dumb actually. Not in their current form (they're too thick and weird shaped when folded), but in some time I can imagine a very thin phone that folds out to become a tablet. Having one device replace two has a clear advantage, but only if that device is better than each one it replaces, not worse.

That kind of makes sense to me, but such a device would need to be significantly thinner than current chunky smartphones. The expectations of good camera’s and long-lasting batteries would need to be met, and $1700 is too much to be mainstream. At that price I think it will remain a niche high-end product.
 
Not anymore, Apple Music is light years behind Spotify…and their user base growth is lagging behind, Siri is the worst voice assistant across all platforms and always has been since its release, the camera system/post-processing of photos on iPhones has arguably been beaten in quality by competitors, and on and on.

Apple still does a lot of things better, but it ain’t like before, not even close.
I think apple does worse for all those things due to their privacy concerns. They aren't tracking your every move, like, photo, location, and also selling all that information... so siri will never be alexa or google quality, Apple Music won't track your music as well as Spotify, and I'm sure iPhones will get more of the camera features that can be done on phone.
 
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Never really saw the appeal of foldable phones until I tried one, and it's not that dumb actually. Not in their current form (they're too thick and weird shaped when folded), but in some time I can imagine a very thin phone that folds out to become a tablet. Having one device replace two has a clear advantage, but only if that device is better than each one it replaces, not worse.
I knew I wanted this the moment I saw the tablets in Westworld (the HBO series). Unfortunately, if the tech is not there yet, an appealing concept remains just that... and if the thickness wasn't enough, the reported plans to highlight the "most durable hinge [yet]" are a clear sign that's exactly the case here.
 
I absolutely don't "get" foldable phones. They easily get damaged on the screen where the hinge is. (I've seen this by friends who own foldable phones, all of their screens have either greases or are outright broken on the hinge) They are even less repairable. And they cost as much as a normal smartphone AND a tablet.

I'd rather just buy a phone and a tablet.
 
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Bring 'em on! A pocketable, bigger screen does solve a problem that some have.

Hopefully, Apple is working on some way to deliver bigger-screen iPhones (or is that foldable/rollable iPads?) so that BOTH the many benefits of a larger screen that is also "pocketable" become an option for those interested Apple-or-bust fans.

Personally, I opt to use iPad Mini 6 to also cover phone/texting needs (buds with mic and VOIP app) and the ONE thing it lacks- IMO- is easy pocketability.
My iPhone 14 pro max fits comfortably in my pocket already. Foldable phones are a lot more thicker something that’s more noticeable to me in my pocket
 
I was going to make my usual "solution in search of a problem," comment, but I think I finally realized what problem foldables are trying to solve: their owners desperately need to be separated from their money.
 
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Interesting, I thought rumors had pegged the price a couple hundred lower. If they are using the Tensor chip then it's going to lag behind Samsung significantly. Coupled with the massive savings Samsung offers for trade ins and pre-order discounts and freebies I'm not sure Google can compete, but it's good to have more competition. I'm hoping this spurs Samsung to widen the outer display and maybe add features to compete like a silo for the pen.
 
I was going to make my usual "solution in search of a problem," comment, but I think I finally realized what problem foldables are trying to solve: their owners desperately need to be separated from their money.

You can insult foldable phone owners all you want, but at the end of the day we find great utility in the design. Maybe open up your blinders a little.
 
That seems to be the idea behind the folding gimmick, but I'm not actually getting two devices from that, am I.
While you’re not getting two devices, it does save you the cost of a separate small tablet. It also allows you to carry one device instead of two.

If you don’t care about small tablets then the folding design would seem be a gimmick. Similarly, if you don’t care about big phones then the iPhone Pro Max’s large screen would also seem to be a gimmick.
 
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Interesting, I thought rumors had pegged the price a couple hundred lower. If they are using the Tensor chip then it's going to lag behind Samsung significantly. Coupled with the massive savings Samsung offers for trade ins and pre-order discounts and freebies I'm not sure Google can compete, but it's good to have more competition. I'm hoping this spurs Samsung to widen the outer display and maybe add features to compete like a silo for the pen.
It’s will be interesting to see the comparisons between the two foldiong phones. I would think that a wider screen would be less pocketable when folded. Maybe Google has compensated by making the screens thinner; I wonder hhow they did this without impacting battery life noticeably.
 
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It’s will be interesting to see the comparisons between the two foldiong phones. I would think that a wider screen would be less pocketable when folded. Maybe Google has compensated by making the screens thinner; I wonder hhow they did this without impacting battery life noticeably.
Yes it will definitely be interesting to see how it pans out. That's why personally I prefer my Fold 4 to my iPhone Pro Max because when closed the iPhone is much wider, making it much more uncomfortable in my front pocket. The Google Fold is supposed to be a fair bit thinner, eventually they will be as thin as today's iPhone when folded. I forget which oem it was, but there is an upcoming foldable that is only a couple of mm thicker when folded than an iPhone.
 
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