Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
that is just the marketing team doing its job. It won't do anything to the internet, in fact there is no proof internet is about to break. just good marketing. It's been about a month of quarentine and nothing happened, it won't happen now.
 
Don't kid yourself - we have Exabytes/sec of fiber laying dormant. The big companies just aren't inclined to add equipment to connect to this unused fiber at this moment, because they can keep jacking the rates up.

I don't think this is the issue, I'm sure the backbone is fine.
I don't know about the US, but here many people are still connected via ADSL, maybe there is fiber not far from their house but the last mile is copper. You can try 4G, but with everyone at home instead of office you have way more devices connected to the same cell, and they can't easily deploy new ones.
 
  • Like
Reactions: makr
It sounds like a lot, but is it really? It’s spread out over quite a long period of time.

300GB/month is about 116KB/sec. Dialing it back to medium quality saves about 70KB/sec. I suppose it does add up though, especially with multiple cameras.
That is a lot. My provider has a 1 TB cap on data per month (and then starts charging $10 per 50 GB beyond that). Nest cameras on high quality would eat through my cap quickly (I don't have any Nest cameras so it's a moot point). While it's not a lot of data at any given point in time, it is a lot in a month.
 
You will not be disappointed going with Ubiquiti. I replaced my Nest cams with them about 4 months ago and have been extremely impressed. Went the the Cloud Key Gen 2 and 2 G4-Pro cameras. Will add some more as soon as I get my lazy butt up in the attic to run more cabling.

Quite the different setup, and tons more expensive. And not WiFi. Not even comparable to the Nest in any way, shape, or form - except they're both cameras, I suppose. :D
 
That is a lot. My provider has a 1 TB cap on data per month (and then starts charging $10 per 50 GB beyond that). Nest cameras on high quality would eat through my cap quickly (I don't have any Nest cameras so it's a moot point). While it's not a lot of data at any given point in time, it is a lot in a month.

If you are suggesting that companies of internet devices should design products that use less bandwidth to operate I am on board. I draw the line and remote access to my settings and altering a service to anything less than I paid for. It sounds like yII have 1 TB of data, and as absurd as a data cap is, you should be able to use it as you please.
 
  • Like
Reactions: xpxp2002
I think the article should include that studies have shown that there has been no strain on bandwidth in the USA. The biggest decrease in bandwidth areas still allow for streaming and high speed internet use.
 
SOLUTION: Create an option for local storage, problem solved! Sending videos of every leaf blowing across a patio or rabbit in your yard across the intarwebz is dumb.
 
  • Love
Reactions: zubikov
I think allowing a setting to only stream when motion/sound happens or someone is watching through the nest app/site would have far better benefit. The dang thing is using bandwidth when nothing is happening and no one is watching, which let’s face it, is like 95% of the day.
 
We have a Nest doorbell because the Mrs. insisted. I think it’s useless. I’d rather install security cams but I hesitate to until their AI features move from the cloud to the device. The amount of bandwidth the better cams use is impractical.

That said, I feel this reduction in bandwidth usage is a non-issue. As someone suggested, it is just a PR stunt. Considering people are home all day, they may as well turn their cams off during the day. I disable our doorbell cam during the day because it is constantly notifying me when I am doing yardwork.
 
“Users can if they wish change the setting back to a higher quality at any time.”
Lol didn’t anyone not read this???
Took me 2secs to switch back this is not a big deal
 
  • Like
Reactions: fairuz
First they turned on a light on cameras that I own, now they are changing my bandwidth settings. I’d like to announce that I will be adjusting Google’s office lights down by 50% to protect the environment, using tools I found on the Dark Web.
 
With all of us at home, I'm guessing home burglaries are way down and the need for these security cameras at home, for most of us, is pretty low.
 
When the change takes effect, users will see video quality settings revert to Default (the middle setting between Low and High). Users can if they wish change the setting back to a higher quality at any time.
So a settings change that can be changed right back? Seems simple enough as long as people are made aware.
 
Not sure I agree with you.

From Nest, quality, per month:

Low: 30GB
Medium: 120GB
High: 300GB

The Nest Cam IQ Indoor/Outdoor - High: 400GB

That's quite a significant amount of data per camera. I have 5 cameras, so just my 5 cameras is 1.6TB of data per month on high.


Discovering the above amount of bandwidth used is why I returned my Nest camera within a week of purchasing it. I'm much happier with my own system, that performs much better.

That's an insane amount of bandwidth used simply to have images stream to Nest 24/7. I have no need for that.
 
  • Like
Reactions: nutmac
Discovering the above amount of bandwidth used is why I returned my Nest camera within a week of purchasing it. I'm much happier with my own system, that performs much better.

That's an insane amount of bandwidth used simply to have images stream to Nest 24/7. I have no need for that.

When you get robbed and the DVR is stolen I'll try to shed a tear.
 
When you get robbed and the DVR is stolen I'll try to shed a tear.

Seems an excessive response to someone simply stating they have the expertise to install their own system which contributes to the issue at hand.

I would hope that if he has the skill to put in his own system that he also thought ahead in regards to the security of the hardware. It's not the oldern days when you needed an entire room for the screens, hard drives and DVRs of a security system.
 
  • Like
Reactions: citysnaps
Seems an excessive response to someone simply stating they have the expertise to install their own system which contributes to the issue at hand.

I would hope that if he has the skill to put in his own system that he also thought ahead in regards to the security of the hardware. It's not the oldern days when you needed an entire room for the screens, hard drives and DVRs. of a security system.

If you're serious about security and protecting your data then the data isn't at one site. So if you're not using the public cloud you're paying to offsite the data somewhere. Which do you think is cheaper?
 
When you get robbed and the DVR is stolen I'll try to shed a tear.

No shedded tears are necessary. Images of any detected people on my property, from any of my cameras, are messaged to my phone and other cloud service. If I want to look at what's happening on my property from any of my cameras, I use my custom phone app to do so. Easy. And not wasteful of expensive bandwidth.

That's much better than streaming 300 GB/month of data to Nest 24/7. That's just stupid.
[automerge]1586964279[/automerge]
If you're serious about security and protecting your data then the data isn't at one site. So if you're not using the public cloud you're paying to offsite the data somewhere. Which do you think is cheaper?

See above.
 
Last edited:
And this is why you install your own camera system with internal storage. Control everything about the environment and keep your files on your local network only!

I always thought that Nest was a great company that did very good IoT integration, but the second Google got their hands on it I got VERY nervous.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1146331
I'm sure the feed to big brother will still be HQ...hopefully ISP's learn from the pandemic and put major $ into their infrastructure's, that way companies don't need to lower their quality. I've disconnected most of my camera's expect for the front door...no need to have them on right now, since I'm home all the time.
 
Had anyone, anywhere set up excess capacity in anything on the expectation of world wide lockdown? (Home working and studies probably™ accounts for a tiny fraction of the internet's bandwidth compared to video streaming.)

Google has no right to determine what is best for its customers, that should be up to its customers.

I am removing my Nest cams because what else do you think Google will do in the name of "safety" and helping for the "good for all".

I got rid of my Nest thermostat last week.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Which do you think is cheaper?

Which do you think is more secure? Stories like the one below should make anyone weary of trusting the likes of Google/Amazon.


I'd rather have my own system making use of trusted off site backups as needed for the situation.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: citysnaps
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.