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Google Play Store Now Letting Spotify Use Alternative Billing for In-App Purchases
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Tell me you know nothing about Android without telling me you know absolutely nothing about Android...
Right...
It doesn't have anything to do with U.S. lawmakers on both sides of the aisle wanting to stop Apple and Google from requiring app developers to use their payment systems.
U.S. lawmakers introduce bill to rein in Apple, Google app stores
A bipartisan trio of senators introduced a bill that would rein in app stores of companies they said exert too much market control, including Apple Inc (AAPL.O) and Alphabet Inc's Google (GOOGL.O).
We need app store competition, not Apple's 1960s-style paternalistic monopoly | TechCrunch
Big tech companies want to scare people with dire warnings that proposed federal bills would put their security in jeopardy.
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It's not just lawmakers in the U.S. who are concerned about and investigating this issue either.
EU antitrust regulators quiz developers on Google app payments
EU antitrust regulators have asked app developers whether Alphabet unit Google's threat to remove apps from its Play Store if they use other payment options instead of its own billing system has hurt their business, two people familiar with the matter told Reuters.
South Korea to probe Apple and Google over in-app payment rule break | TechCrunch
South Korea's communication watchdog, the Korea Communications Commission (KCC), said Tuesday it will investigate Apple and Google over potential
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Google app payments under probe by Indonesia’s antitrust agency
Google has been fined more than €8 billion ($7.99 billion) by the European Union in the last decade for anti-competitive practices
It's best for Alphabet (and Apple) to start allowing alternative/3rd party billing methods now to get lawmakers off their backs and before they're forced to do so as we've already seen happen
Google to allow app developers to use rival payment systems, to cut fees
Alphabet unit Google said it will from Tuesday cut fees to 12%, from 15%, for non-gaming app developers on its Google Play App Store which switch to rival payment systems, as it moves to comply with new EU tech rules.
Apple opens up third-party app payments in South Korea, will still take 26% cut
Apple will require apps that take advantage of the new policy in South Korea to report all sales to Apple each month and pay a commission of 26% on those sales.
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Yea there's no way I would go outside the store, even if some of that discount was passed to me, which it won't
I'll be sure to foward this info to Elon Musk. He needs help with his $44 billion purchase of Twitter 🤣
Unfortunately they won't shut up though, because this isn't about user choice. It's about trying to control Apple.
I don’t know, looks like their strategy is working. From 30% down to 27%, the political folks can say LOOK AT WHAT WE DID and call it a win.
It's in Google and Apple's best interests to engage in stuff like this voluntarily.
Otherwise legislation will make them and likely take it even further.
Otherwise legislation will make them and likely take it even further.
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Good that the AppStore isn’t a toilet?! 😆
Take care, better go outside the AppStore, don’t trap yourself, don’t fear the outer world! It’s not safer there!
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If you have an app or service that competes with the platform vendor, you should have a severally reduced rate in order to be able to fairly compete with the vendor.
Apple gets 100% from Apple Music subscribers.
Spotify gets ~70% from subscribers paying through the App Store.
Apple gets 100% from Apple TV+ subscribers.
Netflix *would* have only got ~70% from subscribers paying through the App Store.
While is seems ridiculous that Google's only discounting the rate by 4% (it is pretty ridiculous IMHO), it's a step in the right direction.
3rd Party Developers should be considered a feature of the platform, not just another revenue stream.
Apple gets 100% from Apple Music subscribers.
Spotify gets ~70% from subscribers paying through the App Store.
Apple gets 100% from Apple TV+ subscribers.
Netflix *would* have only got ~70% from subscribers paying through the App Store.
While is seems ridiculous that Google's only discounting the rate by 4% (it is pretty ridiculous IMHO), it's a step in the right direction.
3rd Party Developers should be considered a feature of the platform, not just another revenue stream.
Apple needs to concede, get ahead of this and implement the world's best way to handle this so that everybody is happy. But somehow, Apple still deserves a percentage, one way or another. App developers should not be permitted to distribute through the App Store for free when they themselves are making a profit.
Except in today’s reality, Spotify pays Apple nothing except the 15% on some legacy subscriptions billed through the App Store. I definitely think Apple should make changes around competing apps, but they aren’t taking much from Spotify.
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And way too easy to hurt company‘s bottom line in the process.
Yes I know as customer you don’t care, which is fine.
I think you’re mistaken if you believe that Apple could do “anything” where “everybody” ends up happy.
They will take the money where they can in the meantime. 4% should make a big impact y/y.
Soon both Apple and Google will have to offer alternative billing options everywhere.
It depends on where most of their signups happen — Spotify will probably still push signups to happen on their own site vs mobile, so it likely would be negligible. Google has to keep growing their own profit, so I’m guessing they figured this wouldn’t affect them in any real way.
The people saying Apple will be forced didn't read the article and don't understand the discussion. I'm embarrassed for you. Starting to think you guys can't read and use text-to-speech to comment.
Not really. Google makes money off the data regardless and they allowed the cesspool of alternate stores. They don’t care about protecting developers from counterfeits or consumers from being compromised. As long as they get to sell the data and targeted ads.
I think people are forgetting one key factor:
Google now takes 4% less
Google no longer covers the credit card processing fee (that 4%)
Spotify is still out 30% of the price
Apple’s method for both South Korea and the Netherlands was their cut minus the processing fee. 30 (Apple/Googles fee with processing fee) -3 or 4 (Processing fee) =27 or 26 (Apple/Google fee without processing fee).
Nothing has changed, and these groups thinking it does need to get off the shrooms.
Personally, I hope Apple and Google take these politicians and laws over an open flame.
Sure, Apple and Google are gatekeepers for the mobile OS market. But, every part of retail is filled with gatekeepers. If a customer wants something they find a retailer that offers it, be it in a box store or e-commerce. Sometimes, what a customer wants is only offered by a single retailer, and that is just part of life.
Google now takes 4% less
Google no longer covers the credit card processing fee (that 4%)
Spotify is still out 30% of the price
Apple’s method for both South Korea and the Netherlands was their cut minus the processing fee. 30 (Apple/Googles fee with processing fee) -3 or 4 (Processing fee) =27 or 26 (Apple/Google fee without processing fee).
Nothing has changed, and these groups thinking it does need to get off the shrooms.
Personally, I hope Apple and Google take these politicians and laws over an open flame.
Sure, Apple and Google are gatekeepers for the mobile OS market. But, every part of retail is filled with gatekeepers. If a customer wants something they find a retailer that offers it, be it in a box store or e-commerce. Sometimes, what a customer wants is only offered by a single retailer, and that is just part of life.
Not eve close to how monopoly’s work. Apple and Google are financially anti consumer and the governance is stepping in as they should.