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Try iPad 2 on iOS 9. Useless.

Please show me an Android tablet released in 2011 that is not useless.
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I moved from Android to iOS back to Android.

I moved from iOS to Android back to iOS. So now we're even.

Spyware is not a threat, especially if you use an ad blocking browser like Kiwi or Brave.

Thank you for proving the argument that Spyware is a threat.

If you really want to be a power user and fiddle with all of the stuff you need to fiddle with on Android, you're most certainly better off using Android. I did not find one single remotely useful app on Android that is not on iOS, that wouldn't be considered a power user app (such as wifi scanners). Android has great power user features, because it is not a closed system. It makes it a great choice for 5% of the user base. For the rest of us, iOS is clearly the better choice. The main issue is that 80% of the customers are using an operating system that's designed for the 5% of the users. The truth is, the vast majority of Android users don't give a rat's behind which operating system they use, they just bought a phone.
 
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You'd be hard pressed to find an instance where the majority of people are right about anything. Most of the world uses the metric system and guess what, the metric system is stupid.
So the only 2 countries that don't use the the metric system (although they still do in some way or another because the metric system is the univesaly accepted world wide measurement system) could be considered smart unlike the rest if the countries in this world?
 
Try iPad 2 on iOS 9. Useless. And all other complaints about both iPads and iPhones becoming slower and laggy. It’s really hard to miss this, and say it only affects a small minority.

Happy you mention iOS 12. The few performance tests I’ve seen of iOS 12 beta on older devices are really just pointing out what I’m saying.
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Just the Racing category alone, which is of my interest, there are 4 games on that page that I can’t play.
I wish people would stop misusing the word “useless”. Slight lag is not useless. I have an iPad 3 on iOS 9, an iPhone 5 on iOS 10, and an original iPad on iOS 5. The only one I would say is truly useless is the original iPad due to it running out of RAM all the time trying to browse the modern web. The others really aren’t that bad of an experience IMO. The much maligned iPad 3 works absolutely great as an Amazon video device thanks to its massive battery. In contrast, family members with Android tablets of similar vintage are very nearly useless. Also I have no idea what you are talking about with the App Store thing. I am literally holding an iPad Air 2 right now and I cannot find a game I can’t play. I can even play the recently released CIV game which is quite intensive.

Edit: I looked closer and the only games that aren’t compatible at AR games which is pretty widely known to only support the A9 chip and up. I’d say that’s pretty good for a device released in 2014.
 
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Really. I’m on iPad Air 2 with iOS 11, and there are plenty of games that’s not compatible. Even many on the front page of the AppStore right now.
So? How many percentage of those incompatible games vs all other apps which are still compatible? Or is your definition of apps is just games?
 
There are reports of Pixel 2 slowing down after a few months of use. MKBHD complained about it, too.
I've never seen any slowdown on either my original Pixel XL or my Pixel 2XL, not have I ever had any update problems or bugs.

Also people need to stop treating Android as one thing, only Google provides the Android experience as Google intended. That is the only true comparison with Apple and iOS.

With all my iOS devices I've seen slowdowns and bugs for pretty much everyone of the last 3 iOS updates. The same with MacOS, Apple's quality control has completely gone out of the window recently and if half the posters on here actually spent some time on a Pixel phone that might realise that iOS is not the holy grail of mobile OS.
 
I've never seen any slowdown on either my original Pixel XL or my Pixel 2XL, not have I ever had any update problems or bugs.

Also people need to stop treating Android as one thing, only Google provides the Android experience as Google intended. That is the only true comparison with Apple and iOS.

With all my iOS devices I've seen slowdowns and bugs for pretty much everyone of the last 3 iOS updates. The same with MacOS, Apple's quality control has completely gone out of the window recently and if half the posters on here actually spent some time on a Pixel phone that might realise that iOS is not the holy grail of mobile OS.
Google intends android to be open source so stock android is just another flavour of android.

People act like skins are some kind of abomination and that google need to stop it. However diversity is the whole point of android.
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So? How many percentage of those incompatible games vs all other apps which are still compatible? Or is your definition of apps is just games?
Even I can play fortnite on my iPad mini 4 and look how old and outdated that is.
 
So? How many percentage of those incompatible games vs all other apps which are still compatible? Or is your definition of apps is just games?
It was a reply to a comment about older Android devices not being able to install something. Not how many % that are still compatible. Nor did I say anything about apps vs games.
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Even I can play fortnite on my iPad mini 4 and look how old and outdated that is.
So? Fortnite isn’t anything special.
Try GRID Autosport.
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I wish people would stop misusing the word “useless”. Slight lag is not useless. I have an iPad 3 on iOS 9, an iPhone 5 on iOS 10, and an original iPad on iOS 5. The only one I would say is truly useless is the original iPad due to it running out of RAM all the time trying to browse the modern web. The others really aren’t that bad of an experience IMO. The much maligned iPad 3 works absolutely great as an Amazon video device thanks to its massive battery. In contrast, family members with Android tablets of similar vintage are very nearly useless. Also I have no idea what you are talking about with the App Store thing. I am literally holding an iPad Air 2 right now and I cannot find a game I can’t play. I can even play the recently released CIV game which is quite intensive.

Edit: I looked closer and the only games that aren’t compatible at AR games which is pretty widely known to only support the A9 chip and up. I’d say that’s pretty good for a device released in 2014.
Slight lag?! Give me a break.
And I didnt’t mention iPad 3 as useless. Although it’s very close, as it’s very reduced in it’s capabilities.

Try installing GRID Autosport.
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Please show me an Android tablet released in 2011 that is not useless.
What does Android have to do with Apples planned obsolescence?
 
The alphabet is beyond your comprehension then? . Really... it's not hard to figure out...

No, the alphabet is obviously not beyond my comprehension, and I happen to study typography and type design; maybe I’m just too focused on form to notice meaning… or something. Most likely, it comes down to the fact that I am not an Android user and haven’t paid enough attention to it to notice the pattern. In any case, you don’t need to be rude about it, by making assumptions and and going around insulting fellow forum goers.

For the record, I hadn’t indeed noticed that before and, as you’re probably guessing, I’m not in the least bit ashamed about it; in fact, I know quite a few different versioning schemes (the weirdest of them being the ones used by Donald Knuth), and most of them are number-based or at least include them more prominently (even when there are publicly used code names, such as what happens with macOS versions, Windows Service Packs, etc., they are usually accompanied by numbers). The fact that I, someone who actually happens to notice those patterns (I was being cheeky before, you know?) hadn’t noticed they were following an alphabetical order just proves my point further.

And while I’d readily admit they may be doing that just to be funny, and edgy, and different, the fact of the matter is that either accidentally or on purpose, they are indeed masking that situation to some extent. It’s also interesting how Apple has gone the exact opposite route, by ommiting their internal iOS codenames altogether (you can’t seriously argue that a simple numeric scheme is harder to follow than an alphabetical one… The fact that the names can be of variable size, and don’t necessarily bear any meaning to one another – unlike the Mac OS X/OS X/macOS names, which to this day still follow patterns of duos and trios – other than the fact that they are either sweet snacks or pastries makes them confusing by default).
 
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No, the alphabet is obviously not beyond my comprehension, and I happen to study typography and type design; maybe I’m just too focused on form to notice meaning… or something. Most likely, it comes down to the fact that I am not an Android user and haven’t paid enough attention to it to notice the pattern. In any case, you don’t need to be rude about it, by making assumptions and and going around insulting fellow forum goers.

For the record, I hadn’t indeed noticed that before and, as you’re probably guessing, I’m not in the least bit ashamed about it; in fact, I know quite a few different versioning schemes (the weirdest of them being the ones used by Donald Knuth), and most of them are number-based or at least include them more prominently (even when there are publicly used code names, such as what happens with macOS versions, Windows Service Packs, etc., they are usually accompanied by numbers). The fact that I, someone who actually happens to notice those patterns (I was being cheeky before, you know?) hadn’t noticed they were following an alphabetical order just proves my point further.

And while I’d readily admit they may be doing that just to be funny, and edgy, and different, the fact of the matter is that either accidentally or on purpose, they are indeed masking that situation to some extent. It’s also interesting how Apple has gone the exact opposite route, by ommiting their internal iOS codenames altogether (you can’t seriously argue that a simple numeric scheme is harder to follow than an alphabetical one… The fact that the names can be of variable size, and don’t necessarily bear any meaning to one another – unlike the Mac OS X/OS X/macOS names, which to this day still follow patterns of duos and trios – other than the fact that they are either sweet snacks or pastries makes them confusing by default).
Thanks for that... is every one now clear.. good. :)
 
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I've never seen any slowdown on either my original Pixel XL or my Pixel 2XL, not have I ever had any update problems or bugs.

Also people need to stop treating Android as one thing, only Google provides the Android experience as Google intended. That is the only true comparison with Apple and iOS.

With all my iOS devices I've seen slowdowns and bugs for pretty much everyone of the last 3 iOS updates. The same with MacOS, Apple's quality control has completely gone out of the window recently and if half the posters on here actually spent some time on a Pixel phone that might realise that iOS is not the holy grail of mobile OS.

That's all lovely but with Google, you are the product. Android is spyware when you really think about it.
 
It's android. Everything is backwards on android to what i'm used to, 99.9% of apps are worse than iOS versions, spyware is actually a real threat, I avoid google as much as possible.
Well it may be in the world of Heineken but to the rest of us Android is pretty darned good.

Mind you even though I run both iOS and Android I'm mature enough to say 'fair play' where it's due.

Why do so many of this type of posts have to be so childish?
 
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