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I understand that any company can access user content if it’s uploaded to the cloud. That’s true for both Apple and Google. My issue is with people who blindly praise Apple while criticizing Google, even when both operate similarly. It's almost ridiculous.

In the case of NotebookLM, Google clearly states they don’t use user content to train their models, and I assume that claim is subject to strict audits.

As a consumer, I don’t blindly trust or condemn either company. I choose the tools that work best for me.

I have a very simple solution. I do not trust any company with my data. All my important storage is local and offloaded to a cloud location entirely in my own management. I do use iCloud and Google drive but not for sensitive data.
 
I have a very simple solution. I do not trust any company with my data. All my important storage is local and offloaded to a cloud location entirely in my own management. I do use iCloud and Google drive but not for sensitive data.
I try to do the same. I don’t see the point of storing sensitive personal data online 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
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I personally don’t trust Google, but I don’t trust Apple either. They have lost my trust.

That’s where we differ. You clearly trust Apple or at least Apple's marketing.

As a consumer, I’ll use the tool that works best for me. I decide what kind of data I upload. It’s not like Google can magically steal my personal info if I choose not to upload it.
Agreed. I hate it in things like WWDC when Tim c blathers on about how privacy is their North Star…

Except for in places like china where it isn’t & apple then say that ‘they comply with local laws’.

I understand that privacy in different states and different cultures can have different meanings and different legislation etc.

My issue is that like you, I’ve lost faith in their marketing when they keep on banging about how important privacy is to them and how it’s a core part of their corporate identity and consumer promise - which again, is not quite true depending on where you live in the world.

My point is - if you’re going to use it so much in your marketing you should expect Apple to withdraw from markets where they can’t give their customers the privacy which they say is so important to them. But they don’t. So this messaging feels pretty hypocritical.
 
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Google Graveyard, prepare your entry now.
In fairness to notebookLM, it looks like it was always designed to go to the google graveyard.

It’s essentially a skunkworks for their mainstream Genai products - GWS and Gemini - where they try out new ideas, see what flies and then incorporate them into their mainstream products.
 


Google has launched iOS and Android apps for NotebookLM, the company's advanced AI-powered research and note-taking tool.

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Commenting on the launch in a blog post, Google said:
If you haven't come across it before, NotebookLM functions as an AI research companion that helps users analyze and interact with their documents, websites, and other content. The tool can generate summaries, create FAQ lists, produce timeline views, and even transform research materials into podcast-style audio discussions with AI-generated hosts. Google originally launched it in 2023, and then launched its NotebookLM Plus plan for businesses, schools, organizations, and enterprise customers in December. NotebookLM Plus is also available as a part of a Google One AI Premium subscription.

One of the big additions with the app is offline access to Audio Overviews, the genuinely impressive feature that sees two hosts have a podcast-style chat about your project sources. Users can now download summaries for listening on the go, which should be handy for those looking to conserve data. Whether offline or online, the app also supports background playback, making it easier to catch up on research insights while multitasking.

The iOS version also adds more interactivity. Users can tap "Join" to engage directly with the app's AI-powered hosts, allowing them to ask clarifying questions, change the direction of a summary, or toss in an offbeat query.

Sharing content into NotebookLM is now easier than it was via the web app. If you're viewing a website, a PDF, or a YouTube video, access the share sheet and select NotebookLM to add the material as a source. Google says it plans to expand the range of supported input types over time.

The NotebookLM app is now available on the App Store for iPhone and iPad. [Direct Link]

Article Link: Google Releases NotebookLM App for iOS and Android
Looks like a cheap imitation of Apple Notes.
 
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I understand that any company can access user content if it’s uploaded to the cloud. That’s true for both Apple and Google. My issue is with people who blindly praise Apple while criticizing Google, even when both operate similarly. It's almost ridiculous.

In the case of NotebookLM, Google clearly states they don’t use user content to train their models, and I assume that claim is subject to strict audits.

As a consumer, I don’t blindly trust or condemn either company. I choose the tools that work best for me.
It has been proven over many years that Apple is more trustworthy with user data than Google ever could be. All you need to do is to perform an internet search to find out how they have violated user privacy whenever it suits them.
 
This genuinely sounds useful.. I just can't see myself trusting google with any more of my data.. bummer.
Yeah, my immediate thought was, ok, I share a PDF with it, is it going to my Google Account's cloud storage, or staying local, or maybe going to iCloud? So I'd be ok uploading reports from dismantled public agencies to it to try to speculate on trends, but definitely not my credit card statements.

But on a positive note, there's a real iPadOS version, too.
 
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