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First off, I've actually used Google's support and it works really well. Takes a bit longer to get the phone replacement since it has to be shipped, but I have had no problems with them.

Second, the whole resale thing is outdated. If you have current gen tech the price isn't bad for Apple, but let it go a little and it drops like a brick like everyone else. Several Android handsets hold a premium just as well now.

Well, put some links up then if it is "outdated". Considering 90% of Android Phone sold are not even premium owns, you'll have to be picky on that.
 
Not sure what a Google branded phone can offer over the Nexus phones or other android phones. Chips will probably be sourced from Qualcomm, screens probably from Samsung, etc. Anything exclusive to Google phone would just drive OEMs away from Android. Meh

Difference between a custom designed device when compared to a collaborative device.
If Google does this we could have some very special (as in great) device(s). ;)
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Sure it does. I guess if you think widgets or animated wallpapers are more advanced. Under the hood iOS crushes Android with technology. Android is all flash and no substance. An example? It's still using software based encryption when the iPhone has had hardware encryption since the 3GS. Do you know how old the 3GS is? Ooooh, but you can customize your home screen. That's sooooooooo much more important than something like encryption. Just one of the reasons iOS COMPLETELY DOMINATES Android in enterprise/corporate use. You know, by people who actually need to get real work done on their devices.

Someone was thirsty and obviously drank the Kool-Ade.
Why is the iPhone currently more popular? Is it an enterprise device or a BYOD?
 
First off, I've actually used Google's support and it works really well. Takes a bit longer to get the phone replacement since it has to be shipped, but I have had no problems with them.

I'd second Google support. I use them for phones and Project Fi as a service provider. Absolutely top notch. I had issues with my first Nexus 6P and they overnight-ed a new phone right away. Very few hold time waits, they can call you back easily, extremely friendly. On par or better than Apple minus the physical stores (which give me panic attacks anyways).
 
Extremely doubtful, the smartphone market is completely saturated, even Apple has declining sales and Google under Alphabet has been focused much more on making money rather than exploring for the sake of it.
 
Phone is the thing of yesterday. They should give us some out-of-the-world module to connect our brain directly to Google server.o_O
 
I'm really curious where Apple will be in 5 years.

I'm scared the way things are going.

Google phone.....interesting! The perfect timing for them would be to release it after Apple releases the iphone 6SE/Iphone 7. If it's a lame duck, then it will be a perfect opportunity to move in on Apple's market share.
 
Let's hope it's a true flagship. Every Nexus phone seems to have compromises and IMO don't achieve full flagship status.

The original intent of the Nexus line was never to be a flagship. It was to produce an affordable reference design running stock Android for developpers. And as such, it was very successful. It was great value at the price point. The problem I see with that decision is that it will likely be at flagship prices and carrrier locked. That was the other big advantage of the Nexus devices. They were always unlocked.
 
The original intent of the Nexus line was never to be a flagship. It was to produce an affordable reference design running stock Android for developpers. And as such, it was very successful. It was great value at the price point. The problem I see with that decision is that it will likely be at flagship prices and carrrier locked. That was the other big advantage of the Nexus devices. They were always unlocked.

It seems like they've gotten away from that somewhat in the past couple of iterations. The Nexus 6 was $649 at launch which is in flagship territory IMO, although certainly not quite there. The 6p was $499 which is impressive, but still substantially more than the Nexus 5 at $349. At $349 yeah I think they were out for an affordable reference design, but since then they seem to be moving towards a 2 phone strategy with one being the affordable reference design and the other being a flagship type. I like that strategy a lot, I just wish they would fully flagship the flagship lineup. Yes it will be more expensive, but other flagships have no issue selling like hotcakes. The Google brand has that same unknown quality that Apple has which makes people line up for their hardware and I think a true Google brand flagship would sell a lot. I still have my doubts that Google is doing this to spur the oems as I don't really think they need spurring with all the innovation that's out there. I also don't see why it needs to be carrier locked. Google can simply offer their own installment program, everyone else has one. Google also has a lot of clout with the carriers and can take an Apple approach and let the carriers have locked phones, but if you buy from Google it's unlocked.
 
Well, put some links up then if it is "outdated". Considering 90% of Android Phone sold are not even premium owns, you'll have to be picky on that.
It's fair to say that you should compare premium phones with premium phones. Far too often we look at android as a brand (though this is fair in many ways).

Don't look at phones that are selling brand new for $200 and expect a good resale value. Look at something like a galaxy phone and see how long those hold their value. These phones do pretty well up until the 1.5-2 year mark and then seem to fall drastically.

A lot of this has to do with Apple's flooding of the market. iPhone are "everywhere" now. Years ago they were limited to very specific carriers and countries. Now they're being sold al over the place and there is a market saturation (that we had with android virtually from day one). FWIW iPhones have a lower resale value than they did five or so years ago. Again, has everything to do with market saturation.
 
Difference between a custom designed device when compared to a collaborative device.
If Google does this we could have some very special (as in great) device(s). ;)

Let's hope so. More competition is better for us consumers. I was really excited when Google bought Motorola & that turned out to be nothing on the hardware front. Project Ara, Google Glass, etc. Colour me skeptical on Google hardware initiatives
 
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What's google's customer support number?
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There is...or, at least in this case, there was. Microsoft. However, MS can't even get out of the <1% market share. So, it's a moot point. Linux? Really? I understand your point that competition is good. The problem I see is that the current competition can't compete with Apple. They don't have the resources. Outside of Apple, no vendor has their own comparable Ax series chip. No vendor has their own "homemade" OS that is not Android. These two are integral in what makes Apple very successful in what it does.

it doesn't have to be better than iphone, just an alternative. Windows phone could have been but it failed misrably. I don't like it when 1 or 2 companies in the world control a specific product. Compare that to the automobile market, we have at least 20-30 brands and cars are a lot more expensive and more complex than a mini-flat computer with 5 inch screen attached.
 
Google customer support is very good. They offer easier returns than Apple outside of the USA, and like apple have no issue replacing devices if there is a problem. Google are doing very well at this at the moment.

Likewise Google customer support often go out of their way to help you if they can, I had an issue with Google Play Music which allows 4 device 'de-authrorisations' per year. I go through a lot more phones than that and I had to contact Google a couple of times to sort this, which they did. But instead of just being re-active, they then contacted me themselves (after I explained why I had to have this corrected previous), and they proactively worked with me and my account lifting the de-authorisation limit from my account so that I never have the problem again. That's by anyones standard is fantastic customer support.
My Google support experience has been excellent on a consistent basis. I've had each and every Nexus model including the 5X and 6P, they're outstanding. My primary smartphone is a Nexus 6P, my secondary phone is my iPhone 6S Plus. A great combination.
 
My Google support experience has been excellent on a consistent basis. I've had each and every Nexus model including the 5X and 6P, they're outstanding. My primary smartphone is a Nexus 6P, my secondary phone is my iPhone 6S Plus. A great combination.

Google support is great, I've used them before. But Apple still has the advantage with their physical locations, of course that depends on where the consumer is located and may be more an advantage with some and not others far away. But it's just very satisfying to be able to walk into a store with an appointment, and walk out with a new phone or fixed issue right then and there. I'm not sure if google requires you send in the phone first before issuing a replacement, or if they will send a phone out first, but even that is not a perfect solution and requires a CC hold.

FYI I'm a google guy, but I like Apple and am just using them to play devils advocate.
 
This has to end. It's impossible to be the best at everything, the iPhone isn't the best at everything, but overall, is the best phone out there. But of course, can't fight ghosts.
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Erm, no it isn't, and it is almost possible to be the best at everything, the s7 edge has the best design, the best screen, the best camera, the best video, the best battery life, waterproofing, wireless charging expandable storage.. and on and on, and that it will win BEST phone of 2016, I thank you.
 
Erm, no it isn't, and it is almost possible to be the best at everything, the s7 edge has the best design, the best screen, the best camera, the best video, the best battery life, waterproofing, wireless charging expandable storage.. and on and on, and that it will win BEST phone of 2016, I thank you.

It's crap.

Security is crap.
Screen is crap because of the burn outs.
Design is crap because it's always breaking in the back.
Video is inferior, way more shaky than iPhone's OIS.
Battery life is inferior… to the iPhone SE!!!
Waterproofing?
Storage is waaaaaaaay slower than iPhone!
Wireless charging is primitive, you have to put the phone over a mat.

and that it will win BEST phone of 2016

Only in your dreams.
 
It's crap.

Security is crap.
Screen is crap because of the burn outs.
Design is crap because it's always breaking in the back.
Video is inferior, way more shaky than iPhone's OIS.
Battery life is inferior… to the iPhone SE!!!
Waterproofing?
Storage is waaaaaaaay slower than iPhone!
Wireless charging is primitive, you have to put the phone over a mat.
...

Can you expand on your sources? Having looked at it, and keeping up on what the Note 7 will be like (former Note 5 owner), all I can see from your posting is an opinion with no backup. That makes it appear jaded.
 
Can you expand on your sources? Having looked at it, and keeping up on what the Note 7 will be like (former Note 5 owner), all I can see from your posting is an opinion with no backup. That makes it appear jaded.

Prove me wrong, then…
 
It's crap.

Security is crap.
Screen is crap because of the burn outs.
Design is crap because it's always breaking in the back.
Video is inferior, way more shaky than iPhone's OIS.
Battery life is inferior… to the iPhone SE!!!
Waterproofing?
Storage is waaaaaaaay slower than iPhone!
Wireless charging is primitive, you have to put the phone over a mat.



Only in your dreams.
Jeez , God are you angry young fella, why take it so personally when someone doesn't agree that the god phone is still no. 1, it isn't, and hasn't been for a while. And the sad thing is, you know it as well. Denial is a cruel mistress.
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Prove me wrong, then…
Many many many many LOLZ, you sir are awesome. You ask us to prove your crazy rants as incorrect. Just saying something isn't so, doesn't make it so.

But...
Independant tests have named the galaxy s7 as having the best camera, best screen best battery life.. and on and on. Did you really sink to the bottom of the barrel and compare the 4 in non hd iphone se as a comparable to the 5.5 QHD s7 to prove a battery life theory. Wow. That's is so lame.
You sir have just hit an all time low for MR in the desperation stakes.
 
Jeez , God are you angry young fella, why take it so personally when someone doesn't agree that the god phone is still no. 1, it isn't, and hasn't been for a while. And the sad thing is, you know it as well. Denial is a cruel mistress.

LMAO, like it or not, the iPhone is still the gold standard, and everyone else will have to keep trying in the bargain bin.

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LMAO, like it or not, the iPhone is still the gold standard, and everyone else will have to keep trying in the bargain bin.

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As I say, denial cuts deep. Enjoy losing that headphone jack as the ground breaking new feature. God that is the funniest thing I've heard in ages. Cook is sure doing his damn best to destroy jobs legacy. The i7 is gonna be so frikkin lame ,
 
Except that Microsoft bought Nokia to try to get some sort of a market share, Google is already on majority of smartphones worldwide. And you have to give them credit; the newer versions of Anroid seem to scale well and work on $80 basic phone upto flagship

Android is definitely a solid OS. What I'm getting at, and you see it in PCs too to some extent, is that consumers really don't get excited for hardware simply because it's made by the maker of the OS. Microsoft Surface has gotten some traction, but other hardware offerings have faced serious headwinds. In my opinion, and that is all it really is, the success of the iPhone has far less to do with the OS than the hardware design. If you put iOS on a Galaxy nobody would buy it. If you put Android on the iPhone, plenty of people would pony up for it.
 
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