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Google Reveals its Answer to Apple's ARKit With 'ARCore', Bringing AR to 100M Android Devices
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No. But there's a very real possibility they caught wind of what Apple was doing over the past year or so regarding ARKit (as it's hard to keep corporate secrets these days) and scrambled to put together a competing platform. The similarities are too abundant for it to be pure coincidence.
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What exactly are those things?
Oh, awesome, I hope I can do these terms justice in a quick forum explanation. They're pretty cool.
Rotoscoping involves drawing over live action footage for various reasons. If you've ever seen A Scanner Darkly, you've seen rotoscoping used to create a cartoon from live action footage. However, for video editing in general, rotoscoping is used for drawing over live action footage to create masks. You can use the mask to isolate a character from their background and put them somewhere else (think green-screen/chroma-key but by hand).
Automatic rotoscoping tools, like Adobe's Rotobrush, allow editors to quickly draw over an object in one frame, and then the mask will move to cover the character as it moves in following frames. If you've ever used Photoshop's Magic Wand tool, it's like that but also keeps track of the selected object as it moves. Below, I've Rotobrushed the annoying Apple Genius character from those poorly-received ads and placed it into this scene from a well-received iPhone ad. I also had to Rotobrush the hat person, so they'd remain above the Genius.
As for difference matting (I don't know if that's the real term), it's basically green screen without a green screen; you take a photo of the background, have the subject walk in front of it, and then remove the parts of the footage that still look like background. You can do this right now using Photo Booth! Fire it up, click 'Effects' and then click on the fourth dot. I recommend starting with the 'Fish' effect to get a clear idea of what's happening.
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That hat looks _so_ fake.
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I think this is a pretty clever way to bridge to AR wearables. You get millions of people who own the required hardware _today_ - combined with a development community interested in the "next thing", who can tap into that sudden, huge consumer market, you might create a +real+ market for those glasses in the next few years.
Google has Demo, not Kit. Looks like damage control.
Competition is good. Glad they start work on Kit.
Competition is good. Glad they start work on Kit.
Doesn't really matter..at this stage Google nor Apple will be doing anything truly innovative with AR till sometimes next year even if the tech is available now. S8 and pixel phones will have some AR software by end of year but still meaningless for now. We can all play Pokemon go for now.
Where is Apple's VR, at least that has some good uses as of today. Apple should also stick to improving their AI Siri since it definitely needs work . Siri is remotely retarded from what I have experienced.
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Pretty typical. Google has been emulating the Apple method for quite some time now. They see that Apple's approach is much better than there's. They are trying hard to take a step backwards in a lot of different ways. It will be interesting to see how their customers feel about it.
And when I thought this was the iPhone 8's special feature..... LMAO
Why would you think that? Apple told us ARKit worked on devices with an A9 or better back when it was announced. And obviously, all of the people making these demos for the past few months weren't using the iPhone 8 to make them... LMAO!
Yep. Google has fantastic engineers. They’ve got the science part of the equation down. Their weakness is the art portion. Too many of their products are geek centered.
Difference matting is a process of overlaying one image or shape over another shape or scene. It would allow interaction with AR-based figures in a true 3D environment. Right now, the 3D characters are always "in front" of the scene.
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And when I thought this was the iPhone 8's special feature..... LMAO
Why are you here, exactly? Your signature is filled with Google & Samsung.
Were you anxiously awaiting for the iPhone 8, but now you're going to be happy with the second-rate ARCore instead? LMAO!
Why are you here, exactly? Your signature is filled with Google & Samsung.
Were you anxiously awaiting for the iPhone 8, but now you're going to be happy with the second-rate ARCore instead? LMAO![/QUOTE]
This is a Google topic....does that answer ya question lol.
I would never await a iPhone when the Note 8 is clearly superior. Second-rate is Apple's AI Siri (it's borderline retarded) and many other Apple features. Google had AR since Tango started a few years ago so they are more experienced with AR than Apple so you guys are the ones jumping on the bandwagon.
Were you anxiously awaiting for the iPhone 8, but now you're going to be happy with the second-rate ARCore instead? LMAO![/QUOTE]
This is a Google topic....does that answer ya question lol.
I would never await a iPhone when the Note 8 is clearly superior. Second-rate is Apple's AI Siri (it's borderline retarded) and many other Apple features. Google had AR since Tango started a few years ago so they are more experienced with AR than Apple so you guys are the ones jumping on the bandwagon.
Can't wait to a spin off this on Silicon Valley.
Btw, 100 million is BS. ARcore requires Android Nougat or higher... and we know how fast the adoption rate is for android
Btw, 100 million is BS. ARcore requires Android Nougat or higher... and we know how fast the adoption rate is for android
I'm on Android and iOS currently. So this is welcome news but I do wonder how it's going to compare against Apple's iteration of AR because there's going to be LG's implementation and Samsung's and Motorola's and HTC's and those of whatever Chinese upstarts that enter the fray. The flagships for these companies already differ widely in camera specs and mics and sensors and display specs to name just a few differences.
I don't know how much of a headache this will be for developers. I can already tell you Pokémon Go does not play equally smoothly over my various Android phones.
I don't know how much of a headache this will be for developers. I can already tell you Pokémon Go does not play equally smoothly over my various Android phones.
I member when Apple Pay was announced and google created android pay afterwards. Just like ARKit was announced and now ARCore is announced. Even tho both those times google failed to grasp the consumers attention
Google does AR, it takes special hardware and sucks. Google copies Apple. Pathetic.
Will this allow us to AR our iPhones to look like iPhone 6+ ? Look, Ma! My iPhone is bending!
Most likely, AR performance on the iPhone 8 will be significantly smoother and more accurate than any other phone. It's got 3D laser sensors on the front and back which will increase accuracy. Then there's the beast of a chip, the A11 to power it. The A9 is no slouch either and will most likely perform better than Qualcomm's Snapdragon 835.
I won't be surprised that ARCore will become stagnant again.
Look at how many software releases Google tried to come out with and then go silent with them or even went as far as scraping the whole idea altogether? Google Wave, Google Allo, Google Inbox, etc... I may have missed some for sure.
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Did you come here to troll? The hype on Note 8 is by far the worst I have seen and there is much disappointment being expressed all over the internet. In fact, the iPhone 8/X/whatever has not been officially announced yet.
Are you seriously comparing a phone that bends against a phone that catches fire?! GTFOH!
And when I thought this was the iPhone 8's special feature..... LMAO
it will still be one of the special features. will most likely be the most accurate phone for AR, since it will be able to measure the distance.
No, I'm stating that both manufacturers can show a poor quality check at times, so sarcasm can work both ways. Thanks for playing.
That was a very poor example!
Some iPhones bent vs. every single Note 7 recalled due to catching fire?! Your sarcasm game needs work.
It’s slready started. It’s these large corporations versus the average middle class citizens in developed nations and they’ve been winning that war for decades now.