Google: The Web, Not App Stores, is the Future Of Mobile Development

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Which do you believe will dominate mobile development?

Poll closed Aug 16, 2009.
  1. Native applications

    349 vote(s)
  2. Web applications

    89 vote(s)
  3. Not sure

    42 vote(s)
  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Speaking to attendees of the MobileBeat 2009 conference in San Francisco yesterday, Google Engineering vice president Vic Gundotra predicted that the Web would prevail as the dominant mobile application development platform despite the huge success of Apple's App Store (via Financial Times). According to Gundotra the harsh economics of maintaining multiple platform-specific copies of applications is pushing development to the Web.

    At least partially supporting Gundotra's viewpoint were fellow panelists from Palm and Nokia.

    Readers will remember that Apple initially only officially allowed developers to create web-based applications for the iPhone and iPod touch, but extended access to native applications a year later with iPhone OS 2.0 and the launch of the App Store.

    For technical support of his claims, Mr. Gundotra points to HTML5, which is allowing for CSS animations as well as the use of geolocation and accelerometers. Of course, such technologies currently do not address the needs of more complex games that require access to mobile-based 3D services such as OpenGL ES.

    Interestingly, both Google (Chrome OS) and Palm (WebOS), and previously even Nokia, have taken advantage of Apple-backed WebKit as the basis of their latest Web-centric operating systems.

    Article Link: Google: The Web, Not App Stores, is the Future Of Mobile Development
  2. CPD_1 macrumors 6502

    Nov 17, 2007
    South East Texas
  3. Macminiintel macrumors regular

    Aug 25, 2007
    I dont believe that one bit LOL. How is he going to know whats going to work out best. No one thought accept Apple desktop graphics would catch on, no one thought accept Apple that the iPod would catch on, the Apple-App store is really popular, how can someone say web based apps will do a better job LOL. I use to like Google, but I think they are becoming too greedy and invading unnecessary markets, Stick to being a search engine.

    I'll make my own prediction 20 years from now Google will be making toasters and sofas LOL.

    Everything critics have said about Apple they have become the most successful in LOL
  4. Eddyisgreat macrumors 601

    Oct 24, 2007
    It may be the future, but its going to be a while. With Apple and Google trying to pimp javascript, Adobe With Flash and its open screen project, Microsoft with Silverlight.

    Everything just cannot sit on a cloud. Our infrastructure is too fragile for something like this at the present time. Tell ATT and other carriers to actually give us unlimited Data instead of five gigs and maybe a real pipe (HDSPA) and development will follow. Not before.
  5. fowler. macrumors 6502a


    Apr 18, 2004
    I'd think that's because there hasn't been anything that really rivals the App Store as it stands now. With HTML 5 around the corner, that could change, right?
  6. zombitronic macrumors 65816


    Feb 9, 2007
    Because those iPhone web apps really took off...

    No offense to the guy, but I don't know how someone in such a high position can make such claims basing his position on HTML5. Seems like an unintelligent statement merely said to favor his own agenda. Google is great, but does the whole company really stand behind this position? I'm no programmer and I acknowledge that HTML has come a long way, but from personal experience, I don't think web apps compare to apps written with a true SDK.
  7. Electrolytic Suspended

    Mar 8, 2008
    I kind of agree, cloud computing is the future...
  8. Macminiintel macrumors regular

    Aug 25, 2007
    I hope not lol, i actually like to have the software stored on my Macs, I couldn't care less if it takes more time to load from a hard disk lol
  9. SFStateStudent macrumors 604


    Aug 28, 2007
    San Francisco California, USA
    What's totally weird is that Google believes their own propoganda.....:p:p:p
  10. Shasterball macrumors 6502a


    Oct 19, 2007
  11. longofest Editor emeritus


    Jul 10, 2003
    Falls Church, VA
    Yeah, they're drinking the koolaide.

    You definitely have to take these kind of speeches with a grain of salt, as the web is Google's home. But even Google has it's own App store...
  12. tamarco macrumors newbie

    Jun 18, 2009
    Haha Ok??

    The iPhone has no rivals in the app store and a full fledge internet so... what??
  13. TheSlush macrumors 6502a


    Mar 28, 2007
    New York, NY
    Well, Google HOPES so, at least.

    This is just Google's optimism that a more competitive, equal mobile device landscape will emerge. For that to come about, Apple will have to lose its gigantic marketshare in mobile computing. The "harsh economics of maintaining multiple platform-specific copies of applications" only applies if a majority of developers want to bother with the other platforms!

    At this point in time, the disadvantage of the web's instability outweighs the advantage of its platform-independence.
  14. esquire360 macrumors regular

    Sep 8, 2007
    if u can

    use them from cache and not need the web then it could be cool, but always having internet connect is an issue.
  15. inkswamp macrumors 68030


    Jan 26, 2003
    This may be true, but it's the distant future. Applications, I think, are a little like music in this regard. People generally want to buy/download and keep, not rent or subscribe.
  16. benwillis0612 macrumors newbie

    Apr 2, 2009
    This would mean for everyone to have super fast internet connections wherever they are, can't see that happening to be honest.
  17. hexor macrumors 6502

    Nov 26, 2002
    Self supporting

    He is saying this because Google doesn't make their own phones and therefore can't control the hardware Android runs on.
  18. zedsdead macrumors 68040

    Jun 20, 2007
    Native apps will always run better than web apps. I DO NOT want Apple going in that direction (not that they are), not to mention there are plenty of areas where 3g/EDGE access is either poor or not around at all.

    Web apps have their uses, like MobileMe and (which will hopefully expand like Office 2010 is), but Native apps are here to stay.
  19. NP3 macrumors regular

    Jul 12, 2003
    Los Angeles
    Not to mention how in the world would you properly sandbox your OS? Everybody saw how well ActiveX did in IE, and how much of a headache that was to properly contain.
  20. chelsel macrumors 6502

    May 24, 2007
    There is no way JavaScript can compare to compiled Objective-C. JavaScript is terrible as a "real" language. Sure, you can do cool things with it, but ultimately it's a giant hack. Objective-C on the other hand is a thing of beauty, as far as languages go.

    Further, big companies and even small developers will want to protect their intellectual property rather than release it as pure JavaScript source for the world to inspect and copy.

    10 years Java, 8 years JavaScript, 2 years Objective-C.
  21. LethalWolfe macrumors G3


    Jan 11, 2002
    Los Angeles
    The iPhone does not have a lion's share of the smartphone market and the smartphone market, at least in the US, is just a drop in the bucket compared to the overall cell phone market. There is still a big, wide world out there for mobile devices to grow into.

  22. manhattanboy macrumors 6502a


    Jan 25, 2007
    In ur GF's bed, Oh no he didn't!
    I miss the old webapps.
    The new ones just seem to take up space and provide little in return.
  23. iguanarama macrumors member

    Oct 20, 2007
    Wow, concept fail by Google there.

    It's not web vs app store, it's the ability to purchase appropriate tools and services no matter what the medium. Whether you access them as web apps, or whether they are downloadable, is just detail.

    And so the model, not the implementation, of Apple's store is where it's at. "The web has won"? Geez Google, think bigger.
  24. jimsowden macrumors 68000


    Sep 6, 2003
    It's definitely going to be a mix of stronger, web based technologies and still native applications. Apple though the web-apps would catch on with the iPhone, but they were of course too limited.

    The alternative then was to write a whole API environment for native software. Imagine if those APIs could be invoked off the web? Like the camera and location services off mobile facebook? It's the two bridged.

    I'll always want something I can use without the internet, because it will never be 100% pervasive, and sometimes it's nice to not be connected to everything everywhere and just play a game, or work on a photo album. I don't want connectivity forced on me, I just want it as a great option.
  25. rockosmodurnlif macrumors 65816


    Apr 21, 2007
    New York, NY
    Hmm, didn't Sun try this whole the network is the computer business already?

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