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And did I say or imply anything different?

You asked, verbatim, "what is the purpose of incognito"

I answered the purpose is to sandbox the browsing activity of one session against the default local collection state of the browser.

The fact that you asked that question implies the answer is not obvious (to you, if asked literally; to others, if asked rhetorically).

Also it does not make obvious that your local computer would log your data and send these to the Google even when not visiting Google domains/websites. And that's what was happening in this case.
(1) you are using a free browser from the company making the worlds highest revenue from advertising ($225B/yr)
(2) information requested by the user needs to be passed through infrastructure somehow
(3) it literally says this in the FIRST SENTENCE of chrome's legacy incognito landing page: other people who use this device won't see your activity.

it expresses a local privacy feature, and says nothing about your end-to-end anonymity.

based on those 3 things, and in the year 2023, if its still not obvious to you that the feature was only about local privacy... id say thats a you problem


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Governments should be going after companies that do these kind of practices that hurt costumers .

Not wasting money silly stuff like “cool kids use iMessage and Apple Watch, they should be compatible with Android”.
 
Keep using Chrome fools.

A Google spokesperson told The Wall Street Journal that Google does not have an issue with deleting "old technical data" that was not associated with individuals or used for personalization.
But, based on that statement, it appears they have a problem deleting data that IS associated with individuals?

Which piece of data is the more invasive?

…wonder why I never use Google products…
 
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Governments should be going after companies that do these kind of practices that hurt costumers .

Prefacing that I don't like Chrome (prefer Firefox or Safari), but I like being scrupulous. How does this practice -- which serves to enhance ad targeting - "hurt customers" exactly?

The consumer is the subject of advertising. Googles' practices aim to monetize user information that allows superior targeting to advertisers. The difference with or without Google is the level of relevance of ads.

If you are a dog person and browse lots of dogs websites, Googles machinations will serve you more dog related ads, reducing cost of advertising for advertisers (indirectly reducing product cost for given product margin). Does that hurt the consumers if they are not negatively-discriminated?
 
Let's not pretend Apple is much better these guys when it comes to privacy.
Well, Apple is the lesser evil if you care about your privacy. Remember that Google sponsors a number of "free" software and services, through the use of your data. You can also request your data from both companies, which largely will help demonstrate just how much information is kept about you between both companies.

The real question is how do people STILL assume they're safe with Google, when Google has deliberately taken data at every turning point wherever they can. Google Streetview? Let's sniff all the SSIDs in the areas! Don't want to be tracked on your browser? Sorry, we're going to track you anyway! The list goes on of course!

The funny thing is the last two articles I linked are from 12 years ago and literally nothing has changed for Google.
 
When will people realize that Google's entire business model is that their users are the PRODUCT not the CUSTOMER? There will be another 'work-around' for google, and they will definitely try to remain incognito!

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When will people realize that Google's entire business model is that their users are the PRODUCT not the CUSTOMER? There will be another 'work-around' for google, and they will definitely try to remain incognito!

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And this is huge difference as compared to Apple which core business are HW and streaming. Apple can sell privacy as one of its products. For Google, user's privacy = significant impact on income from ads (theirs core business). Even if Apple uses customer data (sometime it does, like training Siri, etc.), it's still night and day (a bit cloudy, but still).
 
I would rather be a fool than use Safari.
Well that seems foolish. As a senior web developer I use Safari as my primary every day. I use most of them to test each day, but Chrome was a fork of WebKit which powers Safari originally, and it has only gotten worse over time.

Safari is much more performant, from my experience, in terms of memory utilization, stability, and battery life. Sure, I’ll open a website in Chrome prior to launch to make sure there are no quirks, but greater than 99% of the time everything is the same between browsers if you’re writing valid code. Then I close it out.

Safari is one of the fastest, most stable, secure and private browsers out there. And it is foolish to just write it off entirely because it is less popular. When you use Chrome, you are not the user, you are the product being sold.
 
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“Safari is designed with privacy in mind by preventing tracking by default. Private Browsing adds additional privacy protections for all your private tabs. After you close a tab, Safari won’t remember the pages you visited, your search history, or your AutoFill information.”
It also disables all Safari extensions and you can choose an independent search engine for Private browsing in the settings.


Apple’s wording is completely clear.
Google’s… was not, implying more privacy protection than actually existed.
That’s actually not clear. Here they say safari (read: your local app) won’t remember the pages you visited. That was true of chrome as well. But Apple / Google retain that data.

It also goes without saying your ISP also retains that data.
 
Google will not delete anything because that user data would be worth millions of $$$ to them in selling it to others. They will just make it look like that have deleted it.
 
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It’s not that I think Apple wouldn’t be doing the same thing if they could, because I’m sure they absolutely would.
But here’s the difference.
If Apple were caught doing something similar to this, it would be reputation destroying. It would lead to months of press and thousands upon thousands of videos, it would be a PR nightmare.
This thread would be 10 pages long in a half hour if Apple were caught doing this.

For Google or Meta? Just another day.

sources, not that I don't believe you, but a good citation here wouldn't hurt. peace





how laggy? it works well enough for me...its just a shame smoogle had to purchase YouTube years ago...smh, one of my favorite sites : (





nicely put, yes hopefully it Neva comes to this, apple being exposed as sleeping big time at the wheel of user privacy...
We would like to believe that except. We have indications Apple is doing the same as Google just better at hiding it. Esp bc so much more Apple code is closed source.



Apple is now the defendant in a Class Action lawsuit from iPhone users who claim that Apple collected their user data even though they were promised via Apple's own privacy settings that their personal information would not be collected. [URL='https://gizmodo.com/apple-iphone-privacy-analytics-class-action-suit-1849774313']Gizmodo[/URL] recently reported that even if you have iPhone Analytics disabled on your iPhone, Apple still receives a ton of information about you which would seem to catch the company in a huge contradiction.

Also:
 
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One of the reasons I stopped using Chrome many years ago was their smirky smartassy text that displayed when using Chrome with incognito mode. It said something along the lines of “Ha ha, yeah, you're in incognito mode, as if that's really a thing on the internet, but yeah, here's incognito mode.” That got me thinking about Chrome and Google.

Google/Alphabet is just a rotten company filled with rotten people. I don't trust them at all.
 
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I still don’t understand how Chrome works. You have profiles, but if you visit Gmail suddenly the entire browser is now signed in to that account.

Why.
 
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So Incognito was referring to how Google was collecting user data
New motto at Evil Corp. : Don't be google
- Abe Lincoln: You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you cannot
fool all of the people all of the time
- Google: Hold my cookies
 
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It was rhetorical question as I've already previously explained here https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...-data-to-settle-lawsuit.2423318/post-33049392

I will mark my post with "sarcasm" for you in the future.

Anyway, thank you for your time explaining this obvious browser feature.

Also no one was saying this feature should do anything server-side. Seems like some misunderstanding on your side.

You seem to be having basic logic issues.

Your claim of having "already previously explained here"... post-dates your question of "what is Incognito mode for". You asked it first, blankly.

If you asked it literally, I gave you the answer. If you asked rhetorically -- as to induce the answer on other people's behalf -- I gave the answer for other people; why are you so aggrieved at that?

Good sarcasm doesn't require flagging. Keep that in mind for yourself in the future.
 
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You seem to be having basic logic issues.

Your claim of having "already previously explained here"... post-dates your question of "what is Incognito mode for". You asked it first, blankly.

If you asked it literally, I gave you the answer. If you asked rhetorically -- as to induce the answer on other people's behalf -- I gave the answer for other people; why are you so aggrieved at that?

Good sarcasm doesn't require flagging. Keep that in mind for yourself in the future.
Okay Jim. Nice to see you wasting your time telling me what I did say or what I did not.

You seem to be having problem understanding my replies.

If you asked rhetorically -- as to induce the answer on other people's behalf -- I gave the answer for other people; why are you so aggrieved at that?
Aggrieved? Not at all, I even thanked you for your explanation of this obvious feature - again, just shows your problem of understanding my replies.
 
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