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Apple's webkit? no.

webkit is open source. Apple just happen to use it too.

In case nobody's pulled you up on that, Webkit is Apple's baby.

From Wikipedia:

WebKit began when Apple Inc. created a software fork of the KDE project’s HTML layout engine KHTML and KDE's JavaScript engine (KJS).
 
A better ad delivery mechanism....

Google states that the reason for a new web browser is that the company believes that it "can add value for users and, at the same time, help drive innovation on the web."

What do you bet that there's nothing like AdBlock Plus for this baby?
 
I look forward to this. Google seems to be going in all different directions and I am surprised that the Android is going to T-Mobile. I wonder if there will be a cellphone version of this on the Android.
 
Now I don't see the rush in announcing it before a version for all OS's is available. If it based on the same thing Safari is based off of, is a Mac version really that complicated? :confused:

Keep in mind, I have zip developmental skills, as just an "Average" browser user, so if there is a lot more then meets the eye in the process just let me know.
Yes, it is that complicated--the UI that's wrapped around Webkit pretty much has to be independently developed for all three platforms. Most code is "build once compile anywhere", but user interfaces are very platform specific.

(There are toolkits like GTK+ which can let developers avoid this, but besides only allowing "lowest common denominator" features, generally their Mac support is lacking.)
 
Google states that the reason for a new web browser is that the company believes that it "can add value for users and, at the same time, help drive innovation on the web."

What do you bet that there's nothing like AdBlock Plus for this baby?
Mhhh... Now that you have reminded me of AdBlock Plus.... I'm not to sure about permanently switching. It's said to have plug-in support right?
 
Personally I welcome this new browser, any and all pressure put on Microsoft to improve there products the better everyone will be. God knows they have shown little desire to fix them when they are not pressured to do so. Im not a Microsoft basher but they really do need a kick in the a$$ once in while. I don't know If ill use this at all on my Mac's, I use the daily builds of webkit and love it, but Ill surely give it whirl on my small windows partion.
 
DOM War!

We enlisted google to achieve DOMination. Of course the mac version is an afterthought.
 
thats bogus claim, there is nothing future proof about webkit, it supports roughly same, if not less standards than gecko, and its js is two versions behind. 1.5/1.6 vs 1.8, future proof? what future are you talking about?

Webkit is much more future proof than Gecko, as has been pointed out in other threads, it's in more 'products' than Gecko is, and to me, renders pages much cleaner. There are standards that Safari 3 is the only one that has them working right, several CSS3 features (yes, it's still not the current standard) that only Safari handles. I like that Webkit is taking the time to not only develop these upcoming standards, but building them into current systems.

PS - This is post 500 for me... 6502a here I come! I can finally add an avatar! EDIT - Nope... it's 499. Dang!
 
Wow. I think this is great. There could be a better browser. That's really the way the web is headed. It's not just pages anymore people. It's apps. And google can see that.
 
Hmmmm... so we really want this type of thing to be open source, from a standpoint of security. Just asking...

why wouldn't we want it to be open source? seems to me open source browsers happen to be more secure...

(safari is paricley open source btw i still don't know how much though)

I can't wait i always wanted someone to challenge firefox's open source stance
I hope it can enter a new area competition between browsers. Also does anyone else think maybe google and mozilla could work together? maybe help fix some problems together?

well i just have to say from a designer stance even though its another browser to have to make sure its compatible... CAN"T BE WORSE THAN IE!!!!!!!
 
well i just have to say from a designer stance even though its another browser to have to make sure its compatible... CAN"T BE WORSE THAN IE!!!!!!!

It's based on WebKit, so theoretically if it renders properly in Safari it should look the same under Chrome barring any unforeseen "Google quirks". But yeah, in any case it cannot be worse than the monolithic dinosaur that is IE.
 
Don't know much about this. So Webkit is an open source technology Apple uses in Safari that Google is now using in a browser. I get that. But if you go to http://www.webkit.org why do they use the Safari icon for generic Webkit builds if it's independent of Apple?

Short course in history. Webkit is based on rendering-engine called KHTML. KHTML is created by the KDE-project. Apple took KHTML, and created Webkit from it. KHTML and Webkit are quite similar to each other and improvements and bug-fixes flow to both directions between the two projects. Since KHTML is free software, Apple is required to share the changes they have made to it. Therefore Webkit is free software as well. Anyone can use Webkit (and KHTML) in their browser. So far we have had Safari, Omniweb and other third-party browsers that use Webkit. Interestingly, Google's Android also uses Webkit. And that's why it makes sense for Google to use Webkit in their "normal" browser as well.
 
This is a waste of resources. How may open-source browsers do we need?

Why ? And whose resources ? Is this "waste of resources" going to cause a decline in our standard of living ? Are developers and users being coerced into making and using this new browser ? I guess users will decide how many browsers are needed.
 
Mac users, as usual...

yep, as usual, we're the ones who have to wait, and without a release date, either. drag. :mad:
 
Over time, the web is the direction everything has been going. Apple has been investing significantly in Safari and a establishing themselves to deliver web-apps like MobileMe.

Over time, many apps will be entirely web-based and platform independent.

People have been predicting this for so long but it has yet failed to materialize. It's the Web's version of Duke Nukem Forever. I used to be very excited by the prospect of this but I've come to the more likely conclusion that the Web will never fully turn into its own platform in the way we think of platforms. If it happens, it's a lot further off than most of us at first assumed and it will be radically different than anything we can conceive of at this point.

And I know through the years we've seen lots of applications online based on Flash and Java, but those are separate and distinct development environments shoehorned into the Web. As far as native Web-based development of applications, the mix of XML/(D)HTML/Javascript/AJAX/[add latest buzzwords here] has been pretty impressive but come up considerably short of what was envisioned.

So I agree with you but I think it's still too far off to attribute Google Chrome's arrival to that.

So you don't use Gmail? Personally, I preferred it so much to Hotmail and the paid hosting service I was using that I dropped them both. As far as video is concerned, I thought Google Video was better than YouTube but I guess that's just one of those Beta/VHS scenarios.

I love Gmail and use it every day. There was nothing new about web-based email, but nobody had done it the way it needed to be done when Gmail came along. That's what I meant by my comment that Google seems to do best when they come up with something "novel and reasonably original." I'm not sure this browser fits that description. I don't see anything here that beats the current batch of browsers in the same way Gmail beats Hotmail and thousands of other web-based email services.

And FWIW, I loathed Google video. It was clunky as far as UI and playback went, and very hard to use. YouTube was light-years ahead of them in every aspect.
 
I'm talking about the fact that some very big companies are backing webkit, and it will soon be the dominant browser engine.
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This is a definite benefit for Apple and mac users since the default browser on the mac platform (Safari) uses webkit.
 
Okay, well, that's cool, I guess... good for Google. The more browsers the merrier, I suppose. Hope they bring some cool ideas to the table, and take market share from Explorer, not the other players.
 
love the map of Europe on page 13 of the Google Chrome comic, with Iceland talking to Russia, borders redrawn and several countries missing or amalgamated.
hope it doesn't start anything too serious :)
 
the tabs above the address bar look silly with the Vista window title bar behind them. the idea would work if they were able to hide that completely so that the tabs were the only thing at the top of the window
if the tabs aren't going to be for the entire window, just the content within it, then i don't see the point in putting them above the address bar - it's just further to move your mouse to switch between them

and i agree, i think it's unlikely there'll be anyway to avoid adverts in the browser - or at least, not ones that Google generates
what's the betting that after they go live with this, there's a big panel at the bottom of window that constantly displays google ads?
 
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