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I bought QuickOffice a long time ago, thinking it would be good better than having iWorks for iOS Suite. The greatest advantages were that it could sync with DropBox. In the end, I stopped using it once I discovered I couldn't insert an image in a Word document. Then I got Pages and that's what I use now. I even have Word for iPad, but I still like Pages better. At least for now.
 
I don't trust companies to maintain software. Apple, Microsoft, Google, Adobe and others have repeatedly shown utter disregard for user's data. They discontinue products, discontinue data access (read/write of old file formats), etc. Apple is a fool to do this because it means I won't update my hardware so they loose a lot of sales (6x for our family).
Apple isn't doing anything in this case. And if you don't trust companies with software how are you posting this? Got to be using software from some companies otherwise it's goodbye internet and essentially the modern life.

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...but I found a replacement as soon as Google bought it.
the replacement being...?
 
I don't trust companies to maintain software. Apple, Microsoft, Google, Adobe and others have repeatedly shown utter disregard for user's data. They discontinue products, discontinue data access (read/write of old file formats), etc. Apple is a fool to do this because it means I won't update my hardware so they loose a lot of sales (6x for our family).

Give specific examples.
 
Howso? The next version of Office for Mac isn't late or anything. Since we saw 2013 released for Windows last year, we will most likely see 2014 released for OS X sometime this year. Standard procedure as far as Microsoft is concerned. They've just recently made a quality iPad app too which was in high demand.

True, I forgot the previous version was 2008 before 2011 came out. At least they're still doing periodical bug fixes but it should at least be optimized for retina display! Half the elements on it are so fuzzy on my screen :(


On another note, woah did MacRumors get new smiley icons??!? :eek:
 
Tell them you won't use Linux because you need MS Office. When they tell you there are alternatives that can edit Office docs, bring up things like macros or scripting. Then they'll tell you hardly anyone uses those features and they aren't really needed.

Then drop the bomb: ask them why Linux users are always talking about the powerful command line scripting functions you can use in Linux. Why are they such an important feature for Linux, but are "useless" for Office?

I've been a full-time Linux user for about 15 years (including using throughout my degree and 10 years of work) and not once have I ever needed to use and scripting features of office.

Who really cares about your particular use-case (or immature need to "trip" people up)?
 
I don't understand what your point is. The most popular office alternative on Linux actually has both macros and scripting.


Neither of which is compatible with VB. That is the issue. I have tried but even the simplest of macros just do not translate. People are not going to sit and rewrite every single macro (even if possible) or VB based apps just to switch to LibreOffice or any other future fork. MS Office thrives on business/edu sales, those are the markets where scripting and macros matter. Home use is another matter.

I've been a full-time Linux user for about 15 years (including using throughout my degree and 10 years of work) and not once have I ever needed to use and scripting features of office.

Who really cares about your particular use-case (or immature need to "trip" people up)?

Who cares, indeed? ;)
 
:apple: = discontinued Aperture a few days ago.

M$ = Office switching form .doc to .docx, .xls to .xlsx, .ppt to .pptx. Also each new version adds bloat that is incompatible with older versions.

MSFT needs you to update somehow. They should just go to the subscription model for software. Then there is no need to go through all of these changes to get users to buy the new program.
 
Fun fact: 89% of Notes installations are within IBM itself. When IBM touts the growth of Notes, it's mostly fueled by additional installations from IBM hiring more employees. Few companies actually choose to use Notes/Domino instead of Exchange.

Here on the West Coast I saw Notes/Domino disappear about 15 years ago. My understanding is that its customers were typically on the East Coast and related to government. I don't know if that's held on or not.

Anyway, lots of companies make expensive, internal tools and get value out of it without selling it outside of the company at all. If IBM still gets value out of it, then it's nice to get that 11% outside sales to help subsidize their tools. And it surely beats sending money to the competition.

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Who really cares about your particular use-case

Well I use macros and scripting, so I guess that would be me and everyone else who does.
 
I don't trust companies to maintain software. Apple, Microsoft, Google, Adobe and others have repeatedly shown utter disregard for user's data. They discontinue products, discontinue data access (read/write of old file formats), etc. Apple is a fool to do this because it means I won't update my hardware so they loose a lot of sales (6x for our family).
I agree with your sentiment but, and I hate to break it to you, while 6x may be a lot of purchases for you, it doesn't amount to a lot of sales for Apple. I think Apple is more interested in iToys these days. :(
Thank god for companies like IBM, still making Lotus, the office suite that everybody stopped using 20 years ago.

Interesting - I didn't notice that they dropped the word "Lotus". Anyways, version 9 of IBM Notes (previously called "IBM Lotus Notes") was released last year, and they just released a patch for it a few months ago. IBM's product roadmaps show that they have funding set aside to continue its development into 2016 (and the roadmaps don't go beyond that, so you can't read into that for what they'll do beyond 2016).

Fun fact: 89% of Notes installations are within IBM itself. When IBM touts the growth of Notes, it's mostly fueled by additional installations from IBM hiring more employees. Few companies actually choose to use Notes/Domino instead of Exchange.
I know of at least two very large companies (F100) that use this clunky software. You can tell, because email replies always come back stripped of all formatting (and inline images).
 
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Considering it still has pre-10.5 components/elements, I would definitely have to agree.

Not to mention that 'recovered files' on reboot bug is very annoying. Most people will not take the time to research what they have to turn off in MSO to halt this.
 
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