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Whilst I am not against Apple on this I do feel that it is the end-users that will suffer. If the developers that rely on the advertising revenue as their income drops enough then they may start charging a subscription fee, the amount of complaining threads about all the subscription-based services shows that is unpopular. Alternatively, developers could let good apps go or leave them to rot.

Yay for privacy, but like it or not, many would rather be tracked than have to pay for something.
No need to worry. The vast majority of people are with you using Android, Google, Facebook, Alexa lets you reorder Tide Pods from Amazon. So much convenience tracking brings. Some of us choose Apples “walled garden” instead. Life will still go on. Tracking 6 out of 7 million on the planet leaves plenty of room to profit for the free perks it brings.
 
No need to worry. The vast majority of people are with you using Android, Google, Facebook, Alexa lets you reorder Tide Pods from Amazon. So much convenience tracking brings. Some of us choose Apples “walled garden” instead. Life will still go on. Tracking 6 out of 7 million on the planet leaves plenty of room to profit for the free perks it brings.

Oh, you are that guy that claimed when he viewed a property and the agents Surface Pro didn't work that was a factor in you not buying the property. lol, you break me up, you really do. :rolleyes:
 
Well that’s the problem. If it’s free, people complain. If it’s a paid app using a subscription model people still complain. A one-time purchase of $1 or $2 is just not profitable enough for apps to survive.
Exactly. I have a free (with ads) and paid version (without ads) of the the same app and most people don’t won’t to pay anything and would rather have ads. 1 or 2 downloads of paid app on every 100 of the free one. I have never had a single email of anyone complaining about ads in 7 years. People would rather put up with ads as long as it is free.
 


Apple will soon require iPhone, iPad, and Apple TV app developers to request permission from users to collect their random advertising identifier (known as the "Identifier for Advertisers" or "IDFA"), which advertisers use to deliver personalized ads and track how effective their ad campaigns were. Specifically, users will be presented with a prompt to allow or deny tracking as necessary when opening apps on iOS 14, iPadOS 14, and tvOS 14, as part of Apple's App Tracking Transparency ("ATT") policy.

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In response to this upcoming change, Google today announced that it will stop collecting IDFAs for the "handful" of its iOS apps that currently use it for advertising purposes once Apple's new policy goes into effect. As a result, Google said it will not need to show Apple's tracking permission prompt in its iOS apps.

In a blog post, Google said that app developers may see a "significant impact" to their Google ad revenue on iOS after Apple's new policy takes effect:Google has a support document with more information on how developers can prepare.

Apple has also required developers to fill out a privacy label when submitting new apps and app updates to the App Store since December 8. Google added that it is "working hard to understand and comply with Apple's guidelines" for all of its apps in the App Store, and ensured that its iOS apps will be updated with privacy label information as necessary when new features or bug fixes are introduced. Many of Google's most prominent iOS apps have yet to display this privacy information, including the main Google app, YouTube, Gmail, Chrome, and others.

Facebook has criticized Apple's new policy, claiming that it will hurt small businesses who benefit from personalized advertising. In response, Apple said users deserve transparency and control. "We believe that this is a simple matter of standing up for our users," said Apple, adding that "users should know when their data is being collected and shared across other apps and websites — and they should have the choice to allow that or not."

Article Link: Google to Stop Collecting Advertising Identifiers in iOS Apps in Response to iOS 14's Upcoming Tracking Prompt
Wait-- "Ask App not to Track"? That doesn't sound very transparent.
 
Correct! No Google = more better!!

But another option for those of us forced to use one for work.... open your Google stuff in a private window. I believe this prevents another instances of the same browser from auto logging you in. I believe you can also use separate private windows for gmail, YouTube, etc so they can't see eachother.
If it's the same account it will be linked anyway. Even if the browser tabs can't talk directly
 
So let me get this straight. Apple did not force Google to stop or change their practices. All they did was just force them to report their practices to users. And in response Google changed their practices? If they would rather change than report, shows what kind of practices they had.
 
App developers just need to make ad free versions of their app. If it is a decent app, I'll gladly pay a dollar or two to remove ads. I have so many apps that show ads that don't offer a remove ads option.
Depending on how much you use the app, it’s almost always better for them that you see the ads. There’s an app by a small developer that I use and I haven’t paid to remove ads to continue to send them money over time because I appreciate their work.

That way you could subscribe to bunches of applications without having to worry about being charged again at the end of the term.
You can already do that now. You can subscribe to an app, go into the subscriptions interface and unsubscribe immediately. Your subscription is still active until the end of the subscription period and, when the time comes, no charge, no subscription. This is great for streaming apps where I want time to binge a few show seasons and not worry about unsubscribing.
 
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Yea, right Google. You’re removing the ability to collect this information so you don’t have to ask for permission. More like you’re appearing to not have to ask for permission so you can collect the information you want via another hack method which you probably already know about but haven’t notified Apple or other developers about.
 
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This is great and all, but Apple needs to realize that their censorship of applications is just as bad as somebody tracking your every move.

I don’t really use social media, but you cannot pretend to be for people‘s rights and then against them somewhere else.
 
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Yea, right Google. You’re removing the ability to collect this information so you don’t have to ask for permission. More like you’re appearing to not have to ask for permission so you can collect the information you want via another hack method which you probably already know about but haven’t notified Apple or other developers about.
Oh I guarantee you they are going to pull a tik tok and start tracking hardware by MAC Addresses. They will have a profile for everyone, and that’s why everyone should stop using their crap.
 
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If you can’t afford to pay a living wage, then your business is not a successful one. If you can’t make enough revenue from the sale of your app, then your app is not a successful one.
That's such a naive and insensitive comment. And ask yourself, when was the last time you actually paid for an app?
 
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Is there a go live date for the tracking feature? Not seen it pop up on 14.4 yet.

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Never mind found the article, will be included in the next betas coming in spring.
 
Yes...... slimy google. Meanwhile saint Apple manufactures their products with near slave labor, so much so they need suicide nets outside of the factories.

Yes, Apple is just so much better than google.
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I never said Apple was perfect but certainly better than google.

you’re using Apple products? I presume since you’re on an Apple site. If totirngoinf to call Apple out make sure you’re a not a hypocrite.
Yes Google is slimey and I don’t trust him. You’ll be okay.
 
I never said Apple was perfect but certainly better than google.

you’re using Apple products? I presume since you’re on an Apple site. If totirngoinf to call Apple out make sure you’re a not a hypocrite.
Yes Google is slimey and I don’t trust him. You’ll be okay.
What, I can't criticize Apple if I use their products?

What an ignorant point if that's what is being implied. I criticize Apple because they should strive to be better and abide by their supposed values. But their "values" are nothing more than a sales pitch to gullible people.

I use Apple products because I don't care how they're manufactured, just that they're decent quality. I would like the company to stop virtue signaling.
 
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See that is a good solution, but too much common sense for big companies to implement.
They know it, they just don't want the deal with the cost of implementing the solution.

And when it comes to Google versus Apple, it's really just a PR thing at this point. Google wants to paint Apple in a bad light, Apple is calling out Google's lack of ethics [despite Apple's lack of ethics].

In the end the consumer always looses. But this is slightly beneficial.
 
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I would say it's better than that. It's more like they are allowing users to stand up for themselves.

This argument that it's hurting business is asinine. Im sorry but the ad gathering process is like milking cows. Cows don't have a choice, they are milked whether they like it or not, but you put food in front of them and they let it happen.

People are not livestock and should have the right to know when they are being monetized or someone else's gain.
If only they read the end user license agreement....... but people are generally dumb and lazy.

I believe there is a South Park episode about this.... something about an iPad and an iCentipad.
 
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Google knows that if they show the prompt people will sue them when they find Google has found other ways to track them, which Google WILL do. They'll have to, as it's how they make their money.
 
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