Sorry but my $1200 46" Samsung Tv has Netflix. It's certainly not in the top 5% most expensive TV's.
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Google TV Utilizes Same SGX535 Graphics Processor Found in iPad and iPhone 3GS
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Sorry but my $1200 46" Samsung Tv has Netflix. It's certainly not in the top 5% most expensive TV's.
Kinda like how Macs are the most ridiculously priced computers out there?
Doesn't seem to be hurting them.
wow some Apple fanboys are really showing there stuff and well their lack of common sense calling this a copy.
Some of the more intelligent members called it like it is. A common graphic processor. I would not be surprised if you started looking deep at other phones you see something pretty common about that graphic processor. There are only so many companies out there that make it. Considering Intel was a driving force behind this graphic processor it is not surprising seeing it used in other things.
Oh and calling this a copy of the Apple TV is a joke. The Apple TV is a over priced POS. There are multiple better choices out there than the apple TV and a good chunk of them are cheaper.
Some of the more intelligent members called it like it is. A common graphic processor. I would not be surprised if you started looking deep at other phones you see something pretty common about that graphic processor. There are only so many companies out there that make it. Considering Intel was a driving force behind this graphic processor it is not surprising seeing it used in other things.
Oh and calling this a copy of the Apple TV is a joke. The Apple TV is a over priced POS. There are multiple better choices out there than the apple TV and a good chunk of them are cheaper.
AppleTV is a big bag of hurt" I read that someplace
Seriously, it's not an easy to understand concept, so it's a "hobby" at apple because they can't be selling millions of these.
Hobby is a nice codeword for failure. It's all newton-ed up is my suggestion!
Maybe Google will get them to fix this thing?
Who said it would do 1080 video? I think the PowerVR SGX535 GPU tops out at 1280x800 or 1024x768 output. So it will do 720 but not 1080.
Mark my words, satellite companies
You need to keep a close eye on this. Google's already proven that it won't take down illegal software, and users can install software from anywhere on the web anyway. This is almost definitely going to be used for satellite signal theft.
You need to keep a close eye on this. Google's already proven that it won't take down illegal software, and users can install software from anywhere on the web anyway. This is almost definitely going to be used for satellite signal theft.
Also, isn't Google trying to position this device as a game console of sorts? Graphically, it can't really compete with the current systems, not even the Wii, and we're at the point in the game console release cycle where I expect new console introductions at E3. So it'll be two generations back by the time it comes out.
AppleTV is a big bag of hurt" I read that someplace
Seriously, it's not an easy to understand concept, so it's a "hobby" at apple because they can't be selling millions of these.
Hobby is a nice codeword for failure. It's all newton-ed up is my suggestion!
Maybe Google will get them to fix this thing?
Yeah, I guess they were fresh out of MAGIC when they made Apple TV.
The iPhone 3GS can easily playback 1080p videos from what I remember from testing, as can the iPad. The Apple TV needs to adopt the iPhone OS and hardware. Lost cost, low power, high performance and a lot of content.
It would be nice if Google brought something new to the world. However, it looks like they are pursuing the same formula that's worked for Apple's competitors in the past:
- Copy Apple's UI changing things as necessary to avoid patent suits
- Make the system available to multiple hardware vendors (opening the possibility for more hardware innovation)
- Allow third parties to control of the user experience (opening the possibility for more software innovation)
- Boost tech specs that people use to comparison shop, even if there is no actual performance gain
- Cut corners on the physical ruggedness and reliability to reduce cost
This formula has worked well for the PC industry for years. But it does have it's downsides.
- Thre is a constant downward pressure on price that squeezes engineering and development budgets and limits the resources a company can devot to innovation
- It diffuses responsibility for the user experience to OS, hardware, and application developers which frequently results in nobody stepping up to make things work well for the end user
Personally I like Apple's approach better, but I know that it doesn't work for everybody. Right now Apple seems to be doing a good job on being innovative, even though they are just one company acting as hardware, OS, application developer, and media vendor.
It looks like SJ is betting that Apple can be innovative enough to stay ahead of the competition. That would be great, but it's certainly going to be a challenge.
Google copies Apple, how shocking
Google obviously has nothing to do with this. It's Intel's chip and Intel is a major investor in Imagination Technologies (which produces PowerVR): "Apple and Intel are key stockholders in Imagination Technologies. According to the UK publicly-listed company, they respectively own 9.5% and 16% (according to the Guardian) of its shares."
So, as one can see, it's Apple who is following Intel's lead here.
Google wants this to the masses. That is why I think it will be on the lower end also. If they are following their release of the android software there will be versions of this on low end tv's. Not saying this is bad... they want it to the masses.
I'm with you on that one. Apple had plenty of time to move forward, and instead, they're selling the same Apple TV box they did almost 3 years ago. You snooze, you lose. Hopefully this is a good wake-up call.
You're both wrong - it feeds on your privacy. What's frightening to me is wondering what it'll feed on next, after it has consumed all your privacy.
I fear free will is next.
I hope there's an AppleTV dev preview this WWDC in time for September launch update.
Though they could implement iPhoneOS in the next ATV, it could create another whole ecosystem of TV apps and videogames which is another hold rush for developers.
But having ARM processors only will resort to fragmentation with the previous Intel processor that it's currently using. So the OS would rely on a Rosetta like layer to simulate iPhone apps (as mentioned in patentlyapple.com). Me thinks this next ATV could be using a hybrid Atom+ARM chipset.
WWDC couldn't come fast enough!
Though they could implement iPhoneOS in the next ATV, it could create another whole ecosystem of TV apps and videogames which is another hold rush for developers.
But having ARM processors only will resort to fragmentation with the previous Intel processor that it's currently using. So the OS would rely on a Rosetta like layer to simulate iPhone apps (as mentioned in patentlyapple.com). Me thinks this next ATV could be using a hybrid Atom+ARM chipset.
WWDC couldn't come fast enough!
I know the hardware's badly due for a refresh but if apps were to come to the Apple TV, I sure hope they'd be available for current models. My TV is 32'' so 1080p isn't an issue with me (though I understand it is for many) and if the Wii can play Netflix decently so should the current ATV - anywhere near iTunes HD video quality would make me happy.
Apps can be games...Android apps running on a TV would be more than a little like an Android game console...
As some posters have already pointed out, Google TV is an example of Google actually getting out in front of Apple.
At some point in the future (I'm totally uninformed guess would be this coming January) Apple will release a new Apple TV device and when they do it will be based on the iTouch OS interface. It will run existing iPhone/iPod Touch apps, iPad apps, and of course, apps designed directly for it. It will become a fully integrated part of the iVerse.
In the mean time, Google is there first. Good for them. Time will tell how it all works out.
God I hope they do not get into that too. F****ers are literally everywhere. Buy a company and slap their name on it mostly though. I never realized Google had so many fans or fans period for that matter. Where are the webcrawler fans out there??? Anyone? Crickets?
You say this as if they haven't already. I got rid of my cable box 2 years ago. My AppleTV enabled this. I haven't missed cable one bit, and I certainly haven't missed the bill each month. I have Freeview built into the television for those times I must watch live news (BBC), other than that I haven't watched commercial television in 2 years. I download all my television shows and enjoy them without commercial interruption. I burn DVDs and stream them to the box.
The device, next to my iMac, is the most used (along with the TV) device in the house. I love it.
the app store proved that people are willing to pay money for what are essentially 1980's arcade rejects so now everyone wants in on the action. last few years game dev has gotten so expensive and complicated that a reboot was needed.
my 2 cets:
I have an modified appleTV (removed wifi card and added Broadcom CrystalHD) and it plays 1080p on linux. I am sure if Apple wants to add 1080p suport to AppleTV it could be done as fast as a blink of an eye. But there are lot more involved in here.
Serious, we have the technology to only need to plug the power cord on our TV and have internet & TV content from it. But we leave in a world that is dominated by big corporation which brainwashes the population(expecialy in America where democracy is dead), they will never remove values(cable provider, satellite provider, internet provider, blockbuster, cell phone etc...). AppleTV concept was a threat for the system, so they do their best by lobbing(pressuring) the content provider, and apple needs to be in the same page as the content provider, or else they will play hard on apple. So I see google TV, more like a google bargain to get content, I believed GoogleTV will be halted by the "System" as the AppleTV concept was.
I have an modified appleTV (removed wifi card and added Broadcom CrystalHD) and it plays 1080p on linux. I am sure if Apple wants to add 1080p suport to AppleTV it could be done as fast as a blink of an eye. But there are lot more involved in here.
Serious, we have the technology to only need to plug the power cord on our TV and have internet & TV content from it. But we leave in a world that is dominated by big corporation which brainwashes the population(expecialy in America where democracy is dead), they will never remove values(cable provider, satellite provider, internet provider, blockbuster, cell phone etc...). AppleTV concept was a threat for the system, so they do their best by lobbing(pressuring) the content provider, and apple needs to be in the same page as the content provider, or else they will play hard on apple. So I see google TV, more like a google bargain to get content, I believed GoogleTV will be halted by the "System" as the AppleTV concept was.
Well I don't normally buy sony products, for the chances of me overpaying even more for an overpriced tv or dvd player to get this is liited.
As for the logitech standalone product, they do make nice mice.
As for integration, buidling a standalone box like logitech or building it into a blue-ray player like Sony is fine.
Building it into a tv is a waste of time and money in my opinion. TVs need to be treated like monitors. They don't need to have stuff integrated into them. Nobody is ever going to get the value out of that.