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I believe in science and facts. Scientists are taught to infer hypotheses from facts.

Facts: Google siphons as much data as it can using any device as it can, and has a history of not respecting browser's privacy settings. Its CEO has a habit of making, at best, dubious remarks on privacy. The company's privacy policy basically states an individual doesn't have the right to anything, given the service is free. They bought Nest thermostats business, leading to widespread concern about their ultimate goal. Most of their services are free of charge.

Hypotheses: Google doesn't give a dime about user's privacy and is aggressively looking to accumulate as much information on them as possible, by any means ("pipe") possible. They aren't doing it out of philanthropy, but for their bottom line.

If you were a "scientist" you would know that a valid hypothesis has to be disprovable. Your hypothesis is not in any way disprovable.

I find it interesting that someone with an interest in Neuroscience who is a self-proclaimed "PhD Student" would have such a weak understanding of the basics of scientific method. hrrrmmm.
 
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Irrelevant as they can't run Android apps. They can only view html documents.

HTML as a platform isn't enough.

Only view HTML documents? Have you ever used a Chromebook? They can run native apps now and they can run hosted apps that work just like a native app would. Also, the fact that they can run web apps, means it is easy for an organization to distribute/manage their custom apps to the entire organization.

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But they surely can afford to sell themselves to the Google empire.

Chromebook are crap: subjective observation. However, they do have to deal with being completely worthless when there's no wifi available. They have to deal with inherent slowness of working over the Internet instead of locally. They're typically built very cheaply. They have strong but mostly useless CPUs because of these limitations.

Chromebooks allow users to edit/create documents/spreadsheets/presentations while offline. You can also read and manage your email offline. This is all a organization like a school district will care about.
 
Only view HTML documents? Have you ever used a Chromebook? They can run native apps now and they can run hosted apps that work just like a native app would. Also, the fact that they can run web apps, means it is easy for an organization to distribute/manage their custom apps to the entire organization.

I've already been corrected by another user, don't worry.

It shows though that Google were wrong - native apps are needed, the web is not enough.
 
I've already been corrected by another user, don't worry.

It shows though that Google were wrong - native apps are needed, the web is not enough.

Web apps are exactly what most organizations like school districts will use. They don't really have to resources to create native apps for a single platform. A lot of people here seem to think these Chromebooks are being used like a regular user would use them. These Chromebooks are managed completely by the school administrators.
 
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Web apps are exactly what most organizations like school districts will use. They don't really have to resources to create native apps for a single platform. A lot of people here seem to think these Chromebooks are being used like a regular user would use them. These Chromebooks are managed completely by the school administrators.
One thing that this thread has shown me... some people get it, others don't. And some of the ones that don't won't let facts that go contrary to preconceived notions slow them down.

What I find interesting in an ironic sort of way is that some of those who hailed the "cloud" as THE thing reject Chromebooks because of it's cloud-centric nature. For some reason, the requirement to have network connectivity to access data is just fine, but requiring that same network connectivity to access software... epic fail. :eek::D
 
One thing that this thread has shown me... some people get it, others don't. And some of the ones that don't won't let facts that go contrary to preconceived notions slow them down.

What I find interesting in an ironic sort of way is that some of those who hailed the "cloud" as THE thing reject Chromebooks because of it's cloud-centric nature. For some reason, the requirement to have network connectivity to access data is just fine, but requiring that same network connectivity to access software... epic fail. :eek::D



This is why Chromebooks are appropriate tools for some and useless toys for others. I reach for the Chromebook when it is usable for what I want to do. Editing a video, I go for the MacBook Pro. Managing Excel sheets and games, I go for the ThinkPad. Browsing MacRumors, the Chromebook is just fine and better for typing then a tablet.
 
Overall, interesting thread. Definitely appreciate those who work in education and have knowledge + experience in administering Chromebooks chiming in.

Say whatever you will of Chromebooks. There's a reason they have a 50% market share in the education sector. Evidently, it's been a proven solution. We're now a year past, but there are so many misconceptions with them, it's mind boggling. I can back up many of the assertions since I bought an HP Chromebook 14 over a month ago and have been using it since then.
-It's mostly a consumption device.
-It's got some productivity features in there, like limited programming in Python, and image editor
-Google Office works offline. Of course, you need internet to sync your changes back to Google Drive
-For $190 shipped, it's an excellent way to browse the internet. The large screen makes reading on the pleasant side, and the full keyboard works well for typing. It actually works better in the sense that the HP one removes the numpad, the 2x3 home/end/insert/etc. buttons, so there are more shortcuts to deal with, but the spacing works out well

-My unit only has 16 GB of storage. For those comparing Chromebooks to iPads for educational use (3-12), note that the basic iPad also has only 16 GB of storage. You can get the next tier at 32 or 64 GB, but then you'd need to add $100 retail x the # of units you'd like to buy. Even if you get volume discounts, you're still paying a lot since you're buying in all those bulk #s.
The typical student in grades 3 through 12 will be writing essays, articles, making some slides, and perhaps doing spreadsheets. My Word docs span 100KB to 10MB each. PPT and Excel are roughly the same. They should NOT need more than 1 GB of storage, let alone 16 GB. Plus, changes get synced back to the Google Drive. If students need to work with large multimedia files, then a larger Chromebook, or a different laptop altogether would likely be needed. However, the majority of students should be fine with the "no frills" Chromebook (90%?)

-they're much cheaper to replace
-they have less resell value, so they're not likely to get pawned off like with iPads
-some kids of course would prefer iPads... some of them are more so goofing off, and that's where Minecraft, Hearthstone, and many of the games are. Plus, they're not paying for it with their own money, so they have no stake in the matter.

-I've heard of iPads being much harder to administrate. I appreciate some of the examples of admin for Chromebooks vs. iPads. I've talked with a couple of teachers in the CA school districts. Their views and experiences are similar to what I've seen here. They're able to see everything that kids do, including sneaking in views of a Justin Beiber video.
-Chromebooks can be shared. You can get away with less of them, and you can hand off one that's not being used to a student who lost/broke/forgot theirs
-Chromebooks have nice battery life. Linux wasn't really built for laptops in mind, so it's worse in that respect
-Ubuntu and Windows laptops need to be administered. Yes, so do Chrome books, and just like how the Chromebooks themselves still cost money even though they're more affordable. However requiring much less IT resources is time and money saved for the school.

-CBs have keyboards. Ipads can get keyboards too, but they may need to be charged, connect via Bluetooth, add another $100 to the cost of each ipad, and that's another thing to lose.
 
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