Google's New Cloud Storage Plans Launch in the U.S.

[choctawfootball]

It is definitely the principle of it.
We should get more than 5gb of iCloud storage maybe 15gb

then we should get 15gb of storage for each iPhone we own and are currently logged into iCloud.

At the very least we should get 5gb of iCloud storage for each iPhone we own and are currently logged into iCloud.

Trying to back up this iPhone to migrate to a new iPhone is almost impossible via iCloud.

 

[Heineken]

Or he could just pay Apple .99 cents a month and not bother.

12 bucks a year for 50 GB of storage is like 2 fancy cups of coffee.

 

[entropys]

i reckon Apple should provide free storage to the equivalent storage in your phone for two years. After two years you pay. Think about it. it would be one hell of a lot more profitable than the current arrangement. The extra margin as people become more likely to buy a new iphone every second year would more than make up for the free service.

 

[imronburgundy]

$1000 iPhone: fine
99cents a month for 50GB iCloud: too expensive
Sure.

$0.99 for 50 gb is a joke these days. I pay it because the 5 gb plan is set up to fail if you have more than one device to back up, forcing you into a paid tier. Even so, 50 gb isn't enough to properly back up photos.

 

[dominiongamma]

$1000 iPhone: fine
99cents a month for 50GB iCloud: too expensive
Sure.

5 grand on a iMac sure, 99 cents a month for iCloud too expensive people would say

 

[FFR]

12 bucks a year for 50 GB of storage is like 2 fancy cups of coffee.

Or two cronuts.

It’s ridiculous what some people claim as principle when Apple is offering a service and does not mining your data.

 

[iapplelove]

Should be called data mining storage plan.

Come on... who doesn’t now a days. I don’t mind google and continue to use their services.

Moving forward I just assume anything I put online can be seen. Google, Apple it’s all the same. I think we get a sense of illusion that if we use an iPhone we are “safer” online.

 

[MacBH928]

I can't actually believe there are people who pay Google to take their data, look at it, analyze it, and then sell it to 3rd parties to make money of it, and of course, never know if it ever gets deleted. This is a scheme worse than banks which take your money and lend it, and profit from it.

 

[Heineken]

Come on... who doesn’t now a days. I don’t mind google and continue to use their services.

Moving forward I just assume anything I put online can be seen. Google, Apple it’s all the same. I think we get a sense of illusion that if we use an iPhone we are “safer” online.

I have more reasons to trust Apple based on their actions and their stance.

 

[dominiongamma]

I can't actually believe there are people who pay Google to take their data, look at it, analyze it, and then sell it to 3rd parties to make money of it, and of course, never know if it ever gets deleted. This is a scheme worse than banks which take your money and lend it, and profit from it.

Why I shifted from google all together including email to iCloud because I trust it and I feel better knowing I’m paying to keep my privacy unlike google where you pay them to steal your data to sell as you stated

 

[FFR]

I can't actually believe there are people who pay Google to take their data, look at it, analyze it, and then sell it to 3rd parties to make money of it, and of course, never know if it ever gets deleted. This is a scheme worse than banks which take your money and lend it, and profit from it.

Don’t forget the people that are defending the practice by either redefining “mining your data” or claiming Apple does it too.

 

[Kermit262]

Google, Apple it’s all the same.

No, it really isn't.

 

[MacBH928]

Tell you what. You buy your own data centre and give us all the same storage and level of service for the same price and we’ll talk?

You do know that a 2TB HDD is like only $60, it will last you at least 3 years. If you do that math it costs something like $0.4 a month. If they have 10m paying customers worldwide at $10 month, thats $1,200,000,000 a year. By no means you are getting a bargain, at that price its very profitable business. Tell me a data center costs more than a $1B a year.

If you think Google does not have that many customers, Gmail has 1.4B accounts. Just to put things into perspective.

Come on... who doesn’t now a days. I don’t mind google and continue to use their services.4

Moving forward I just assume anything I put online can be seen. Google, Apple it’s all the same. I think we get a sense of illusion that if we use an iPhone we are “safer” online.

Indeed it is, when a company just hosts your data is better than a company that mines and share your data as a business model. When a company deletes your data when you choose to delete them, because your data is not their business is different from a company that strives on storing every single piece of info on you for ever and ever. Facebook even has profiles and data on people who did not signup for their service called shadow profiles!

What you are saying is that, if you locked your doors before leaving, a burglar might still be able to break the door, so why the lock the door?
Its extra pre-catuion.

 

[BigMcGuire]

They announced these plans months ago and said it would be a few months to come out. Now they say it should be available today. Not on my Account. One thing I never liked about Google was the slow rollout of updates.

But I don’t use google anymore. I should be paid for my data when I’m the product being sold. $99 a year for Office 365 - my wife, brother, friend, sister, and I all get 1 TB of OneDrive and the office suite each.

Nice to see people aware of google’s business model. I was once a google evangelist. Now I’m older and hopefully smarter.

 

[CmdrLaForge]

Is there a practical solution that works where such a cloud drive can be used to create encrypted regular backups such as with TimeMachine, Superduper or CCC?

 

[Phogro]

Please help me understand this mentality. A multi-billion dollar corporation nickle and dimes customers for $1 a month and your response is snark... towards the customer? Stockholm Syndrome at it's finest. You're essentially saying because you can afford to pay for Apple kit, you should be willing to pay more? Sure.

$1000 phone - here's 5GB of free storage.
$1500 laptop - we already gave you 5GB of free storage. If you need more pay for it.
$500 tablet - already told you once, we gave you 5GB free with the phone. Open your wallet. We know you have money
$300 watch - you spent a lot money with us? And? Spend more if you want more storage. We gave you 5GB free.

The above kit isn't an exaggerated scenario. Lots of people have that and more. But your response to someone complaining about Apple being stingy with storage is... give them more money?

I mean really what are we arguing over here? You're talking about a person who's invested into the ecosystem and they've spent $2300 on devices, surely 24 dollars a year (for 200 gigs) to keep those devices synced up over the cloud is worth it.

In a world where device sales are forecast to slow down a company must look for ways to monetize those devices which people already who again to remain profitable and growing. You could either monetize those devices by adding services (like cloud storage) or data mining activity and selling adds (like Google - actually Google does both...).

Could Apple increase their free tier to 15gis to match Google? Sure, that would be a nice gesture to those who buy an expensive device from Apple. However, the person who has 2300 dollars worth of Apple devices probably is going to be on a paid storage tier as their needs will exceed any free offer a company would offer.

Bottom line - no matter what Apple offers for free we're always going to want more because in a smart business move Apple shouldn't be offering enough to satisfy the needs of all of its users.

 

[legacyb4]

Because of the high end pricing of the phone - you shouldn't pay for backup storage...
maybe limit the icloud storage to only backups (and maybe photos) for free.
if you need space for files etc -> pay for it.

If you buy a BMW, Benz, etc. (ie. "high-end performance cars"), you shouldn't have to pay for gas because the car was so expensive?

 

[iapplelove]

No, it really isn't.

I don’t trust either company, so to me yeah they are the same. I trust Apple just a notch more no pun lol
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I have more reasons to trust Apple based on their actions and their stance.

Thus my last post. I trust Apple slightly more. But I treat all the tech companies the same, with caution.

I stand by my original post/ don’t care how many here disagree.

 

[DEMinSoCAL]

If you buy a BMW, Benz, etc. (ie. "high-end performance cars"), you shouldn't have to pay for gas because the car was so expensive?

Bad analogy. BMW/Benz don't sell you the gas so why should it be free?

 

[acgmph]

Couldn't care less about Google tbh. I wouldn't consider it even if it were free.

There is only one thing keeping me from switching from Dropbox to iCloud Drive: selective sync. I am hoping for an update from Apple at the iPhone event this fall, even though that's a long stretch.

 

[thefarang]

I can't actually believe there are people who pay Google to take their data, look at it, analyze it, and then sell it to 3rd parties to make money of it, and of course, never know if it ever gets deleted. This is a scheme worse than banks which take your money and lend it, and profit from it.

And then there are people that encrypt any sensitive data and still use Google as the cloud platform to store their data.

 

[oneMadRssn]

$1000 iPhone: fine
99cents a month for 50GB iCloud: too expensive
Sure.

$1000 once, fine.

$1/month or more for the rest of my life, it is too expensive. My issue with cloud storage is its essentially locking you into perpetuity.

 

[thefarang]

Couldn't care less about Google tbh. I wouldn't consider it even if it were free.

There is only one thing keeping me from switching from Dropbox to iCloud Drive: selective sync. I am hoping for an update from Apple at the iPhone event this fall, even though that's a long stretch.

I would 100% ditch Google if Apple offered this. It’s actually quite strange that Apple products use SSDs with limited space without paying through the nose, make it increasingly difficult to upgrade storage yourself, encourage you to store all of your photos, music, and movies on their devices, and then offer a cloud solution that is an all-or-nothing sync. Ok, I know it “optimizes” storage but you know what would be a great optimization? Letting me store 10 year old docs in a folder in the cloud that just sits there until I ask to download it.

 

[javisan]

You just know that Apple is nickel and diming us when they won't allow users paying $1 for the 50GB to share this with their family, but they will allow sharing with the $3 plan.

 

[oneMadRssn]

Tell you what. You buy your own data centre and give us all the same storage and level of service for the same price and we’ll talk?

I did. Bought a Synology NAS. The apps aren’t as polished as Apple’s or Google’s, but Synology has a photo app called Moments that is almost as good: has face detection, automatic albums, automatic uploads at full resolution. I can create shares for my family and friends to view some albums. All the data is stored locally on my NAS, and never mined for ads. They’re actively improving it, updates come often.

I got 20TB of storage (5x4TB), but with two-drive redundancy, I get 12TB of usable storage. Considering how much Apple and Google charge for 2TB, I break even pretty quick.

The trick is finding another friend with a Synology NAS, that lives as far away as possible, and trading encrypted offsite backups for each other.