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CASH

accepted everywhere, no pins, magnetic strips or NFC needed. Will work without connectivity as well.

Can be used internationally as well without surcharges from VISA and the like.

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Your pic that you use is quite.....disturbing. Cool, though. But made of nightmares.....

Works great until your wallet is lost or stolen.
 
Chaos Reigns Supreme

I am hard pressed to see what this means.

Is Chase, Citi, Capital One, all going to have their own payment apps.
Is there going to be a Mastercard, Visa and Amex Apps.

What is Google going to do with the API on the back end.

You call the method RequestPayment( amount, customerID, cardIssuer) what happens?

It will be interesting to see what comes out of this. But there's a lot of ground work to be done here.

Payment is about trust. I don't see a lot here yet.
 
is

CASH

accepted everywhere, no pins, magnetic strips or NFC needed. Will work without connectivity as well.

Can be used internationally as well without surcharges from VISA and the like.

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Your pic that you use is quite.....disturbing. Cool, though. But made of nightmares.....

Cash is not accepted over the internet, nor if it's the wrong currency.
 
I am hard pressed to see what this means.

Is Chase, Citi, Capital One, all going to have their own payment apps.
Is there going to be a Mastercard, Visa and Amex Apps.

Google already mentioned Africa as one of the likely locations that need a feature like this. Banking in Africa in many places can be impossible. Imagine having a form of currency that could be used by users just by touching their phones together. It would open up a new world to a lot of people.
 
Google Wallet has gone through numerous changes in the last few years. Some were a response to Apple Pay but many were done well before Apple Pay. I don't think Google needed Apple Pay to exist before it took payments seriously. It just needed better support from phone manufacturers, carriers and payment processors. And Apple Pay has helped Google just by pushing all of those areas.

It went through many changes, yes. But the problem wasn't so much that they didn't take it seriously. As an online payment gateway it's used in quite a number of things, not just Google properties. Then there's their cash sending via gmail, etc.

The problem with Google Wallet on the handset, from the very beginning, was that the carriers decided to do their own thing. AT&T, Verizon, Sprint, etc... who remembers the name before Softcard? Yes, ISIS. There was another name before that too I think. They blocked Wallet from being preloaded on their phones. Furthermore they blocked bits of the hardware necessary to make it function properly. As Google adjusted, they adjusted.

ISIS/Softcard wasn't the only problem. They had huge problems getting retailers to update their card swipe machines to support contactless stuff. And then ISIS interfered and some of them started blocking Google. In the end, Google worked around a bunch of this stuff, but at that point the momentum was gone.

By the time Apple Pay came around, much of the fighting was already done. I think the folding of Softcard is evidence of that at least. And I remember thinking to myself "now that Google made the push for more contactless stuff at retail locations, maybe Apple and it's iSheep will bring the push that takes it over the edge."

I still think the jury is out on whether it'll succeed long term, but I'd hope people would think twice of accusing anyone of copying on this, especially when the other parties did a fair amount of the historical heavy lifting.
 
Personally I think iPay sound fine and isn't a bad name. It's iWatch that crosses the line in terms of creepiness.

It's when the two are grouped together that it gets really creepy.

iPay.......iWatch.......iXxx

I'm just saying.
 
Then right when apple pay becomes successful

Your definition of "successful" must be pretty generous. It's a brand new technology, in use by only a tiny fraction of iPhone users, supported only on very recent iPhones, only in the US, and is only supported at 10% of vendors in the US. :rolleyes:

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Johnny Ive said it best: "Our competitors have completely the wrong goals"

The same could be said about him recently in both OS X and Mac hardware.

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Easy to lose, easy to steal and doesn't work online.
 
Then it would have been called S Pay

No, then it would have been confused as a service to spay and neuter. ;)

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Works great until your wallet is lost or stolen.

Odds of losing my wallet are infinitely less likely than losing my phone. I've never lost my wallet or had it stolen. But I lose my phone daily. Yes I'm disorganized.

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Your definition of "successful" must be pretty generous. It's a brand new technology, in use by only a tiny fraction of iPhone users, supported only on very recent iPhones, only in the US, and is only supported at 10% of vendors in the US. :rolleyes:

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The same could be said about him recently in both OS X and Mac hardware.

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Easy to lose, easy to steal and doesn't work online.

Haven't you ever fed cash through a cable line? I had to upgrade my service cause it congested the network a little. ;)
 
Imagine having a form of currency that could be used by users just by touching their phones together. It would open up a new world to a lot of people.

You can do this now with Bitcoin. Through Bluetooth too, if you use the Airbitz app...
 
I understand they're different services, however, the point is that Google wallet has been out since 2011 and they didn't even bother really overhauling it until apple pay became a success. While Google had their wallet system first apple actually revolutionized it and made it better both in security and simplicity. And along follows the other companies to make theirs better. Apple isn't always second

Articles about Google working on this have been in the news since at least early 2014.

http://recode.net/2014/02/19/how-yo...ce-your-wallet-thanks-to-mastercard-and-visa/

http://www.androidauthority.com/everything-need-know-host-card-emulation-347626/

http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...-payments-with-host-card-emulation-in-kitkat/
 
It still bothers me that people say apple steals all their ideas from other companies while Samsung and Google are innocent. Then right when apple pay becomes successful other companies follow along and either make a new payment service (Samsung pay) or remake an old one that never caught on (Google wallet). I understand why the other companies are following along I'm just tired of people saying Apple is the only company that comes in second.

It shouldn't bother you either way. Do you enjoy the device you use? Does it do what you want and need? Those are the things that matter. What other people say, what other companies are doing in regards to naming convention features, etc - all "silly" things to get bothered about.

There was such a huge "debate" over the use of the words app store. Ultimately - who really cares? If that (not saying you) is the type of stuff that "angers" or "annoys" people, well - they should really get some perspective. Again - this is not aimed at you.
 
CASH

accepted everywhere, no pins, magnetic strips or NFC needed. Will work without connectivity as well.

Can be used internationally as well without surcharges from VISA and the like..

From the end view of the customer, surcharges are paid regardless of method of payment. If there is a bill of $50.00, whether I pay with a credit card, check or cash, the end customer is still paying $50.00
 
You can do this now with Bitcoin. Through Bluetooth too, if you use the Airbitz app...

Bitcoin is not really a solution in places like Africa. You will need a system with very small fees (because you will be dealing with a lot of micro-transactions). And when dealing with smaller amounts of currency, you can't afford for the value to drop and rise significantly (like Bitcoin is known for doing).
 
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