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And what are your views about Gmail and Youtube?
There's so much advertising on Youtube, it must be profitable. I'm still trying to figure out why Gmail exists from a user perspective. It's so superfluous to me. Didn't email work just fine before Google read all your conversations? At least the NSA doesn't want to convince me to buy an Amazon Alexa only because I know a girl by that name.
 
Probably realized the income they will generate will only be a drop in the bucket. They even had a name for their users "stadians" 😂😂
 
There's so much advertising on Youtube, it must be profitable. I'm still trying to figure out why Gmail exists from a user perspective. It's so superfluous to me. Didn't email work just fine before Google read all your conversations? At least the NSA doesn't want to convince me to buy an Amazon Alexa only because I know a girl by that name.
As a long time user of gmail. I think it has such large market share because Google took the pain out of the email experience. If you use mail for over an hour each day.. you realise how horrible every other alternative really is.
 
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Great shame. Such promising technology and a great user experience. But sadly mismanaged by Google. Never managed to attract the breadth and quality of game titles that it deserved.

I don’t know how Google is ever going to have another successful product again. I would have tried Stadia but I knew from the second it was announced that they would do exactly what they did, because they’ve done it so many times before.

By all accounts Google is a bureaucratic hell hole of layers on layers of incompetent middle management. Everyone is just playing politics trying to get a quick buck for themselves.
 
And what are your views about Gmail and Youtube?
Google completely ruined Youtube, and trashed a lot of our society in the process. Shutting down youtube would improve everyone's quality of life.
 
GeForce Now is better anyway. I play games on highest quality on my M1 Air. Who would’ve tought?

I turned to google stadia for some of my PC gaming needs. I found the pro membership at google to be of great value, but the catalog becomes rather stale after a while. My understanding was that GeForce Now was a game streaming service that allowed you to play all games you own on the major game stores... so I subscribed.

And that's where my disappointment began, granted I should maybe have dug a little deeper into what was actually offered, but their website literally states "GeForce NOW connects to digital PC game stores so you can stream the library of games you already own". I wanted to play GTA V for a long time, but it turns out it's not available on GFN. I own the original 'The Witcher' through GOG, but that version is not playable on GFN. FF7 remake: not available, the fallout franchise: you guessed it. Apart from the AAA titles, I claimed a lot of the free games on the Epic Game Store over time and a lot of the smaller titles are missing from GFN as well.

On-topic: I bought some games on Stadia, all got reimbursed properly. At no point have I ever been disappointed by the money I spent on Stadia.
 
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Stadia is a great cautionary tale of what happens when you have great technology, but completely no idea what to do with it or turn it into a viable product.

Something many here should bear in mind when evaluating future tech. Rather than blindly gush over every new shiny product released by companies not named Apple.
 
oh... look! yet another Google product got killed. does anyone even want to try their new products? seriously, apart from search / YouTube / map / mail it seems that everything else just gets killed...
Hell, I don't even bother with Google Maps (been happily using Apple Maps for years) or Mail (I have a very old gmail account but I've never given out the address except to other Google services that required a gmail address - for years it has gotten basically no legit mail and tons of spam). Google search is still useful, and (sadly) there's no serious competitor to YouTube, but I avoid the rest of Google's services half because of privacy issues and half because they're more likely than not to pull the plug at any moment. They've had so many services that they strongly encouraged users to move over to, and then canceled.
 
No reason to exist when we already have Apple Arcade and the Nintendo Switch. Both have greater libraries of games from AAA to Indie. Sure the Switch might have aging hardware, but at least it had more games than Stadia ever had, and Arcade is just overall the better streaming platform because Apple invests deeply into its services and the lag ain't bad when compared to Stadia. Google gives most of their services 3 years before giving them the axe.

Apple Arcade is not a streaming service. It’s a subscription giving access to installable games.

Anyway I agree on the Switch points. Another comparison would be Xbox Cloud.
 
I turned to google stadia for some of my PC gaming needs. I found the pro membership at google to be of great value, but the catalog becomes rather stale after a while. My understanding was that GeForce Now was a game streaming service that allowed you to play all games you own on the major game stores... so I subscribed.

And that's where my disappointment began, granted I should maybe have dug a little deeper into what was actually offered, but their website literally states "GeForce NOW connects to digital PC game stores so you can stream the library of games you already own". I wanted to play GTA V for a long time, but it turns out it's not available on GFN. I own the original 'The Witcher' through GOG, but that version is not playable on GFN. FF7 remake: not available, the fallout franchise: you guessed it. Apart from the AAA titles, I claimed a lot of the free games on the Epic Game Store over time and a lot of the smaller titles are missing from GFN as well.

On-topic: I bought some games on Stadia, all got reimbursed properly. At no point have I ever been disappointed by the money I spent on Stadia.
I understand, but that‘s on the publishers. If they don’t want their game on GFN, there’s nothing Nvidia can do. GFN is opt-in.

I currently have 181 games on GFN. Most of them from Steam and some from Epic.

Ubisoft’s entire catalog is on GFN, the same goes for Valve and Paradox. Battlefield games are on there and all the Withcher games as well as Cyberpunk 2077.

In total you can as of today play 1504 games on GFN.
 
It's a shame as game streaming really high end games on low cost hardware is such a no-brainer.
But it's still just a bit too early I'd say for it to be THE way games are played by the masses.

Google messed up with the pricing model from day one, and I was never interested.
Like most people? I'd want a Netflix for games. For one monthly price I can pick from many games to play.

It has been said that Google has a problem, that is REALLY rewards it's people for coming up with new exciting tech and ideas, but there is no incentive to support current/older things in the company. Instead they want to work on the next new thing.

I can honestly get that.

Perhaps there needs to be a kind of split in the company, where you have the ones that come up with the tech in the 1st place, and then the other business/es that are all focussed on making the product that are out there already great.

I see a problem kinda even with this.
If you are a clever software/hardware engineer who loves tech. Do you want to be in the teams working on the next greatest project, or do you want to be in the teams supporting old projects?

It's a hard issue to solve I'd say.
 
I understand, but that‘s on the publishers. If they don’t want their game on GFN, there’s nothing Nvidia can do. GFN is opt-in.

I currently have 181 games on GFN. Most of them from Steam and some from Epic.

Ubisoft’s entire catalog is on GFN, the same goes for Valve and Paradox. Battlefield games are on there and all the Withcher games as well as Cyberpunk 2077.

In total you can as of today play 1504 games on GFN.
I understand that it's on the publishers, my issue is with nVidia's marketing. It's misleading at least: "GeForce NOW connects to digital PC game stores so you can stream the games you already own.", the supported games list is burried very well,...

Apart from the flawed marketing, I had several technical issues with GFN (deleted save files, some games being 'offline' for multiple weeks, general outages) that I never experienced with Stadia. Of course, this is all anecdotal evidence, but IMHO, stadia was the superior service.
 
GeForce Now is better anyway. I play games on highest quality on my M1 Air. Who would’ve tought?
There's still a lot of games lacking from the playable library, but from what I've experienced, especially now that they offer 2K resolution as an option, it looks pretty darn close to a native resolution game. The only bad thing is that it requires a fairly hefty internet connective to work properly. It wasn't playable for me at all until I upgraded to gigabit internet.
 
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