Google's Top Lawyer: Some Apple Inventions are Commercially Essential, Should Be Made Into Standards

[3282868]

Where are the negative votes? This is, for example, an obvious troll that should be voted negative.

Um, he does have a point.

Apple has become the bully of the play ground. They have more patent and I.P. suits with Samsung and other companies than ever. Google simply wants the ability to license, not for free, but the tech that Apple got from Fingerworks. This isn't about R&D, this is about a company that has more money than god, and is using the treasure chest to make sure no one can buy one of their cookies.

In the end, keeping this from others may also stifle advancements that Apple may not make. Tech has changed so much, it's not just about physical objects that are being kept but idea's and concepts, I.P., behind those inventions that are cornerstone's for social technological advancements.

Both sides have good arguments, and both sides need to stop being childish with their toys. Period.

I disagree. ... Apple found a way to do it on the iPhone that they felt was better..

Actually, Fingerworks developed multitouch, Apple simply bought them out and adapted their tech.

 

[uknowimright]

Examples, please.

start here

http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/4/3136922/apple-htc-uk-high-court-patents-invalid

you can Google more

 

[Renzatic]

Apple hatters hate Apple really secretly love them.

I don't get this? Are you saying he's an Apple hater because he disagrees with the way Apple handles itself on the patent scene? That you can't be an Apple fan without offering your unconditional love and complete lack of criticism?

There's no reason to divide this into a binary here.

 

[genovelle]

lol what hindsight, all that existed before the iphone

If Apple's implementation had been done before these companies wouldn't have to copy them. They would already be doing it.

 

[Chrisg2014]

I don't understand why companies can't just pay up, just like apple should have to if they infringe as well. It's only fair.

Just like the cost of their products so is the fees.

 

[Pyrrhic Victory]

Kent Walker should go cry in the corner with Randall Stephenson.

 

[bdavis89]

Everyone here is just jealous that they're not even as innovative as Google, much less Apple.

 

[dukebound85]

As Ives himself said in Objectified, a well-designed product looks like an obvious solution. But it takes a long time to get there.

I guess I view multitouch and grid layout to a touch screen device as one views a steering wheel and side opening doors for a car

 

[iansilv]

Eeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhh.... that google guy is kinda right...

But-but but but but....... that Apple guy is kinda right too...

 

[Rogifan]

 

[DavidLeblond]

Actually, Fingerworks developed multitouch, Apple simply bought them out and adapted their tech.

So why didn't Google or Samsung or LG or whoever buy Fingerworks? It's not like Apple bought them for $5 and a free beer, ya know.

 

[uknowimright]

So why didn't Google or Samsung or LG or whoever buy Fingerworks? It's not like Apple bought them for $5 and a free beer, ya know.

why didn't Apple buy Sparrow?

 

[iansilv]

So why didn't Google or Samsung or LG or whoever buy Fingerworks? It's not like Apple bought them for $5 and a free beer, ya know.

Actually we don't know that. And in this case, the beer would not have been free- it would have been part of the transaction.

 

[arkhanjel]

Really??

So if Google thinks they should be able to use the things that Apple spent the all that money on R&D for does that mean Apple and other companies should have that same full access to anything they develop in Maps and Search??

 

[Will do good]

Google, stop stealing

He joined the Apple board and than steal it's secrets. Simple.

 

[GenesisST]

This should be a fun thread to read...

 

[Rogifan]

I disagree. There were touch screen implementations before the iPhone. Apple found a way to do it on the iPhone that they felt was better. There are plenty of ways to do it and most companies are going their own path. If you don't want an Apple product you don't have to buy them. The idea is simple. Apple hatters hate Apple really secretly love them.

Just curious which phone utilized multi-touch, pinch to zoom prior to the iPhone?

 

[S.B.G]

Looks like somewhat valid arguments on both sides. But welcome to the real world. Apple got there first and got patents on it. Google, you need to suck it up and find a different way.

 

[dukebound85]

Just curious which phone utilized multi-touch, pinch to zoom prior to the iPhone?

alot was dependent on the state of touch screen tech back then

 

[DavidLeblond]

why didn't Apple buy Sparrow?

Because they didn't want to.

Apple already has a mail client.

 

[Rogifan]

Actually, Fingerworks developed multitouch, Apple simply bought them out and adapted their tech.

Because Apple is the only company that buys other companies for their technologies or patents.

 

[Renzatic]

If Apple's implementation had been done before these companies wouldn't have to copy them. They would already be doing it.

That's just it. Apple's implementation isn't much different than what's been done before and since. The problem is, some people think it is. That it's some totally unique thing that came about through immaculate conception.

 

[uknowimright]

Because they didn't want to.

Apple already has a mail client.

so Google couldn't have already had their own implementation of multi-touch?

 

[tdtran1025]

Google has prided themselves in their collective brain power such that arrogance is displayed at any internal or public gathering. If this be the case, what product from the company's own development team showed brilliance, other than the mere search engine itself? Even that has faced fierce competition from Bing team.
It is shameful that no other company in the world, especially from less developed countries or Europe would fathom copying ideas from Apple, other than Samsung. Designing an OS is not an easy feat. MS has toyed with it for over 2 decades and still show some lack of understanding of the human brain's interaction. Many other companies have dabbled in this area and failed. If Google did not egregiously steal the ideas from the faked friendship with Steve Jobs, their linux derived OS would be just like any other flavor of Linux mobile OS.
Tim Cooks should show his loyalty to the Jobs by either spend enough money to drive Google to the ground, OR accept settle from them large enough so that they would only be able to feed themselves out of poverty. This could in theory happen if Apple go to bed with MS to use Bing for everything search criteria.
Innovation is vital to economic survival.

 

[Rogifan]

alot was dependent on the state of touch screen tech back then

Ok nobody. And yes we all know Apple bought Fingerworks. Just like Google bought Android. And Motorola Mobility, which no doubt was more to do with patents than Google wanting to get into the hardware business.