gorilla glass

[kdarling]

I am pretty sure that Apple did reference Gorilla glass on its site when the IP4 was released.

I am pretty sure all they ever referenced was "helicopter" and "high speed train" glass. Of course, they didn't add that those train windshields are 1-3" thick

Certainly, a number of other sites (tear down, etc) have said its Gorilla glass.

Sites like iFixit backed off the claim later on. They had simply assumed it was Corning glass from the description. After comparing some breakages of the iPhone and some Android devices, they decided it might not be the same glass.

You're the only person I have seen who said its not.

Search the web nowadays. Nobody is sure what it is. Could very well be a Chinese knock-off.

To me, the best (only?) "evidence" towards it being Gorilla Glass, was that post explaining the early yellow screen spot problems... which turned out to be glue drying... from someone claiming they had been the salesman to Apple. That particular glue comes from Corning.

 

[Infraggable Kru]

I am pretty sure that Apple did reference Gorilla glass on its site when the IP4 was released.

Certainly, a number of other sites (tear down, etc) have said its Gorilla glass.

You're the only person I have seen who said its not.

These were all rumors, many of them were retracted, there is no hard evidence that links corning and apple using gorilla glass

Corning puts out press releases, and quarterly earning updates where they discuss which companies they are working with

There is ZERO mention of working with Apple


Where does all this wishful thinking come from ?

 

[aohus]

there is no credible source saying Apple uses Glass specifically from Corning.

and no, Apple never specifically said that it uses glass from Corning on its website, ever.

the truth is, iP4 glass shatters rather easily. accident rate of iP4 is highest of any other iphone iteration, and this is a fact.

 

[Shockwave78]

I think they need to give up on this Scratch proof stuff. It is never going to work 100% or even close. I would them rather them make the screens extremely easy to replace for even the most novice. This would solve all the problems right there.

 

[Glideslope]

To me, the best (only?) "evidence" towards it being Gorilla Glass, was that post explaining the early yellow screen spot problems... which turned out to be glue drying... from someone claiming they had been the salesman to Apple. That particular glue comes from Corning.

Gorilla Glue?

 

[kdarling]

Gorilla Glue?

Sure

Actually, it was just an agent to help the glue bond.

 

[TruckdriverSean]

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sorry truckdriversean but i believe you are incorrect in both your points

a) the coating is more like a "treatment" to the glass. It doesn't make the surface any more slick or any harder/softer it just adds a layer ( fluorinated silanes ) that react with the oils from your fingers. You can read the details here, but its pretty chemistry intensive
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/EP1555249.html
I don't know where your assumptions come from, but those mini marks on your phone aren't the coating its a scratch in the glass itself

If anything the reports says that isopropanol is a great solvent = Rubbing alcohol will KILL your oleophobic coating

b) The glass is not bare, its surrounded by a plastic outer piece.

It is very possible that I am incorrect about the common (seen not felt) scratches being in the oliophobic coating.

As for point two, the paper-thin strip of polymer around the glass edges still provides very, very little protection to the glass panel edges from drop impact. This is how most iP4's are damaged afterall.

 

[ATC]

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I had a really good case and screen protector on my 4 since launch but about two weeks ago I got brave and took it all off and have been sporting a naked iPhone 4 since.

Not a single scratch so far but it takes a lot of babying. Having said that, it's well worth it; the feel of the device and clarity of the display are amazing now and I'm enjoying using my phone way more than before.

 

[Infraggable Kru]

I think they need to give up on this Scratch proof stuff. It is never going to work 100% or even close. I would them rather them make the screens extremely easy to replace for even the most novice. This would solve all the problems right there.

they tried this with the iPhone 3G/3GS

the results were lint and dust under the screen

my iPhone 4 screen is flawless and has zero dust under it, I'm glad Apple returned to the iPhone 2g method of gluing the LCD to the touchscreen

 

[smithrh]

Corning puts out press releases, and quarterly earning updates where they discuss which companies they are working with

There is ZERO mention of working with Apple

I wouldn't count on this being definitive. I've been directly involved in a deal between two household name companies where there was no mention at all by either company of the deal. No press release, nothing in annual or quarterly reports, nothing.

It was a multi-billion dollar deal - so it was certainly material.

Not everything gets discussed publically.

Now, to be sure, I have no idea of whether Apple uses Corning or not, but I won't assume one way or the other based on a lack of press releases.

 

[Infraggable Kru]

I wouldn't count on this being definitive. I've been directly involved in a deal between two household name companies where there was no mention at all by either company of the deal. No press release, nothing in annual or quarterly reports, nothing.

It was a multi-billion dollar deal - so it was certainly material.

Not everything gets discussed publically.

Now, to be sure, I have no idea of whether Apple uses Corning or not, but I won't assume one way or the other based on a lack of press releases.

What companies are you talking about, I would like to research your "claims". Actually, nevermind, because I just don't believe you.

You are the only one making "definitive claims" that it is Gorilla glass. Somehow, the entire internet, and even reporters don't know this information, yet miraculously you are the only one privy to this information ?

The argument that it is gorilla glass is abysmal, there is no evidence. I'm basing my claim on the weight of evidence that says it is NOT gorilla glass.

Evidence that it's not Gorilla glass = Corning puts out press releases for products that use their products, lists over 20 companies that they have products, in turn those companies promote that their products use gorilla glass, and ifixit retracted their statement that it was gorilla glass

Evidence that it is Gorilla glass = none

It's like trying to argue that the metal on the iPhone 4 band is liquid metal.
I'm sure you could try to argue this point, even reference an old rumor. But its just wishful thinking.

The point is all we know is its some kind of stronger glass, until proven otherwise

Can we end this thread already ?

 

[TruckdriverSean]

What companies are you talking about, I would like to research your "claims". Actually, nevermind, because I just don't believe you.

You are the only one making "definitive claims" that it is Gorilla glass. Somehow, the entire internet, and even reporters don't know this information, yet miraculously you are the only one privy to this information ?

The argument that it is gorilla glass is abysmal, there is no evidence. I'm basing my claim on the weight of evidence that says it is NOT gorilla glass.

Evidence that it's not Gorilla glass = Corning puts out press releases for products that use their products, lists over 20 companies that they have products, in turn those companies promote that their products use gorilla glass, and ifixit retracted their statement that it was gorilla glass

Evidence that it is Gorilla glass = none

It's like trying to argue that the metal on the iPhone 4 band is liquid metal.
I'm sure you could try to argue this point, even reference an old rumor. But its just wishful thinking.

The point is all we know is its some kind of stronger glass, until proven otherwise

Can we end this thread already ?

I think you may be misunderstanding the poster. He's not saying it is or isn't using Gorilla glass, only that a lack of a press release isn't really evidence either way.

 

[aohus]

I think you may be misunderstanding the poster. He's not saying it is or isn't using Gorilla glass, only that a lack of a press release isn't really evidence either way.

right, but the fact that hes saying theres no PR of Gorilla Glass being on iPhone, hes insinuating that it IS using it, which is a total fallacy in logic.

 

[smithrh]

right, but the fact that hes saying theres no PR of Gorilla Glass being on iPhone, hes insinuating that it IS using it, which is a total fallacy in logic.

No insinuation.

Re-read my post if you must, but in summary, I know of OTHER cases where there have been huge deals with no mention of the deal either by the buyer or by the seller.

Not everything is shouted to the rooftops.

Again, stressing for those who have failed logic, this does NOT mean or insinuate anything for Gorilla Glass and the iPhone.

 

[The Californian]

I think you got your properties messed up.

hardness is how scratch-resistant but it has no effect on how brittle something is.

How brittle something is determines how shatter resistant it is. Something can be both hard and not brittle and something else can be very soft and very brittle.

Well, the laws of chemistry would beg to differ.

 

[Infraggable Kru]

No insinuation.

Re-read my post if you must, but in summary, I know of OTHER cases where there have been huge deals with no mention of the deal either by the buyer or by the seller.

Not everything is shouted to the rooftops.

Again, stressing for those who have failed logic, this does NOT mean or insinuate anything for Gorilla Glass and the iPhone.

No our logic is fine, Re-read your original posts, you were adamantly insinuating that it is Gorilla Glass

As others have said you are the one using flawed logic ( using a completely unrelated example) to assume this is Gorilla Glass ( when it's clear there is zero evidence)

 

[Tarzanman]

Fan boys wish it was Gorilla glass, but it isn't. They should find a way to deal with their disappointment (other than making up stuff and posting it).

If you want gorilla glass, then get an android phone.

 

[Infraggable Kru]

If you want gorilla glass, then get an android phone.

ooh nice burn haha