Got MMS without calling AT&T.

[TSX]

Do you have to be on 3.1 for this to work?

 

[gilkisson]

MMS is such an antiquated technology I really don't understand what all the fuss is about. Even with my dumb phones I barely used it. Now with the iPhone, I can upload to flickr, facebook, youtube and send by email. Why on earth would I choose a technology that would downgrade/distort my image/movie? No thanks.

Good questions. I felt the same myself, until this scenario: I'm at the grocery store. Wife texts me, adds Italian Ices to the list of items she already texted me to get. Fine, whatever. When I get to the freezer, I see it is Italian Ice spawning season or something, and there is like 2*10^5 varieties for sale.

Text: "There are a bazillion of these things. Which one?"
Her: "The orange kind."
Text: "Half a bazillion are orange. Specifics please?"

(side note: I thrive on specifics. She fears/hates/abhors them)

Her: "The ones I got before. Don't get those other ones tho."
😡😡
Text: "I'm emailing you a picture of them. Check your email and tell me"
Her: "I'm too busy. Just get the right ones."

So of course, I got four different kinds. Shotgun method. I got fussed at for the "wrong" ones, of course, but at least I got the right ones.

Had we had MMS then (we both have iPhones, btw), I could have "texted" her a picture, got a Yes or No, saved ten bucks, and saved some time.

MMS isn't for those of us who know/love/understand/use all the capabilities of our devices. It's for those who just want it all "to just work" without thought or effort.

Should have been there from Day One.

 

[-aggie-]

Good questions. I felt the same myself, until this scenario: I'm at the grocery store. Wife texts me, adds Italian Ices to the list of items she already texted me to get. Fine, whatever. When I get to the freezer, I see it is Italian Ice spawning season or something, and there is like 2*10^5 varieties for sale.

Text: "There are a bazillion of these things. Which one?"
Her: "The orange kind."
Text: "Half a bazillion are orange. Specifics please?"

(side note: I thrive on specifics. She fears/hates/abhors them)

Her: "The ones I got before. Don't get those other ones tho."
😡😡
Text: "I'm emailing you a picture of them. Check your email and tell me"
Her: "I'm too busy. Just get the right ones."

So of course, I got four different kinds. Shotgun method. I got fussed at for the "wrong" ones, of course, but at least I got the right ones.

Had we had MMS then (we both have iPhones, btw), I could have "texted" her a picture, got a Yes or No, saved ten bucks, and saved some time.

MMS isn't for those of us who know/love/understand/use all the capabilities of our devices. It's for those who just want it all "to just work" without thought or effort.

Should have been there from Day One.

That's just one scenarion, and it so true. However, arguing that with the Apple fanboys (not being disparaging, but it seems to fit) is a waste of time. Whatever Apple thinks must be right. It's their way or no way. Steve Jobs says it, so it must be. And if Apple had put out MMS with the original iPhone? Then we wouldn't be hearing any of this crap.

 

[IBradMac]

Do you have to be on 3.1 for this to work?

Thats actually a good question. I have been wondering the same thing. I would love it if I was able to just update the carrier file since I am jailbroken I'd rather not have to rejailbreak and go through the whole process over again.

Anyone? Would it be possible to just get the carrier file separate from the actual OS update?

 

[gilkisson]

That's just one scenarion, and it so true. However, arguing that with the Apple fanboys (not being disparaging, but it seems to fit) is a waste of time. Whatever Apple thinks must be right. It's their way or no way. Steve Jobs says it, so it must be. And if Apple had put out MMS with the original iPhone? Then we wouldn't be hearing any of this crap.

According to AT&T, they seem to be tacitly admitting that if MMS had been on the iPhone from the beginning, their network would have died, disease would run in our communities, bunnies would be sterilized, etc.

It's always seemed counter-intuitive to me. Apple always prides itself on making things "just work", an easy way to do everything, etc. All the workarounds are like head wounds.

Would not be shocked to learn that keeping MMS off the iPhone was part of AT&T's deal, as they feared they could not handle the load.

Confession: I did do the 4.5 carrier file thing on our phones, we've been shooting pix back and forth over a week now. There have been one (maybe two) times it's been useful, a la the Italian Ice Incident, but the other several dozen have been playtime.

This morning, she sent me a pic of her friend's new hair style, "isn't it cute?" she says. She would have never thought to email that, she never sends email photos. Too many steps to take the time away from what she's doing.. but texting is stream-of-consciousness, it seems, and can be done without breaking the flow of the conversation. Or something.

So, you're right. In keeping with Apple's motif, it should have been there all along.

Thats actually a good question. I have been wondering the same thing. I would love it if I was able to just update the carrier file since I am jailbroken I'd rather not have to rejailbreak and go through the whole process over again.

Anyone? Would it be possible to just get the carrier file separate from the actual OS update?

yes. 4.5 carrier file seems to work. I've seen it done on two phones with 3.0.1, and all are MMSing for a week now. JB not involved. but you do have to flip a switch in your iTunes to allow it to handle IPCC files directly. Small PITA, and probably not worth it with only 3 weeks left to go.