Ok, so I had my G4 Sawtooth for 7 years and finally took the plunge into upgrading. I ran 10.3 on it, and in the all the years I've been running OS X (started with the original store bought beta version), I had ONE single kernal panic in all that time, and that was with the beta. The mac pro is a work of art.. but.. When I got it home, I transfered over all my data, downloaded the latest versions of all my software, and I started installing stuff. I was playing iTunes, crash.. Ok, fine, played a stream via VLC, crash.. In the course of 24 hours, I managed to have 5 complete "hold power button down to reboot" crashes. My mate says ever since upgrading to 10.4 he's had ALOT or random crashes on both his G5 and Powerbook G4. Is this normal? Is 10.3 that much of a POS that it randomly crashes for no apparent reason? It's never the same program that crashes, never the same time being on or memory being filled. Before I go buy a ram testing program to verify it's not that, I wanted to get opinions on if people have noticed much higher frequencies of crashes with 10.4 because frankly this is so unMaclike.