Got the new 2.4ghz 12 core Mac Pro. Good grief!

BJonson

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So it just so happened that today I rebooted my trusty 2008 Mac Pro and it refused to boot back up. Tons of errors. Took it to the genius bar and it needs a new logic board. So I picked up the 12 core mac pro since I need a desktop. Got it home and started to set it all up but got nothing but beachballs and crashes. Put it right back in the box for return. Nice. Guess I am using a mac mini till next year for my main desktop.

I did manage to 32bit geekbench it. Got a 18070 score.
 

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So it just so happened that today I rebooted my trusty 2008 Mac Pro and it refused to boot back up. Tons of errors. Took it to the genius bar and it needs a new logic board. So I picked up the 12 core mac pro since I need a desktop. Got it home and started to set it all up but got nothing but beachballs and crashes. Put it right back in the box for return. Nice. Guess I am using a mac mini till next year for my main desktop.

I did manage to 32bit geekbench it. Got a 18070 score.
Did you restore from backup or fresh install?
If you restored from backup you have corruption, permission errors and more issues with the back up. That'd be my only guess as to why a brand new computer is giving you beach balls.
 

BJonson

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How would the new mac pro be fine when I booted it up and it started beachballing on everything I did. I didn't even put any data on it.
 

thekev

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How would the new mac pro be fine when I booted it up and it started beachballing on everything I did. I didn't even put any data on it.
This is just a guess, but it could have been doing the initial spotlight indexing. This can cause some quirky behavior, but it's temporary. It wouldn't cause super long pauses. How long were the beach balls sticking around each time?
 

goMac

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Sounds like your first spotlight index was running. Mine acts like that on first boot and clears up when spotlight is done.

Machine was probably fine.
 

thekev

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If he has not loaded ANY DATA what would Spotlight be indexing?
I remember during my last OSX re-installation, it did spend some time indexing even prior to installing my own applications, unless my memory is inaccurate here. I'm also wondering what was hooked up to it at the time. This is really uncommon for a mac pro out of the box, but it would be frustrating.
 

BJonson

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I know the slow downs from spotlight and this was not that. Complete freeze with beachball. Never recovered every time I do something. Tried different hard drive, same thing.
 

violst

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I'm just curious, you went into an apple store and they had the new 2.4 12-core in stock?

Thats a rare find.
 

thekev

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I know the slow downs from spotlight and this was not that. Complete freeze with beachball. Never recovered every time I do something. Tried different hard drive, same thing.
Beach ball freezes tend to indicate that the OS is held up by hardware or drivers somewhere. You could always exchange it. You could also try the genius bar, but they haven't been at all helpful to me with mac pro issues. I don't see how you're considering a mini as a replacement though. They aren't even in the same stratosphere in terms of options. It's usually more than geekbench scores that motivates the purchase of a mac pro compared to a mini.
 
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violst

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its a base model .. both the 2.4 12 core and the 3.2 quad are in stock at all the apple stores around my area
Some Apple stores stopped displaying the Mac Pro and some don't sell them at all. Its nice to see the Mac Pro getting a little love at the Apple store.
 

TCZ

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So 12 Westmere cores at 2.4Ghz give a geekbench of 18,000. The new Macbook Pros with 4 Ivy Bridge cores at 2.7Ghz give a geekbench of 12,000. So with one third the number of cores you get two thirds the performance.
 

goMac

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So 12 Westmere cores at 2.4Ghz give a geekbench of 18,000. The new Macbook Pros with 4 Ivy Bridge cores at 2.7Ghz give a geekbench of 12,000. So with one third the number of cores you get two thirds the performance.
Sure, with a GPU that runs at half the speed of a 5870.
 

Buffsteria

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Sure, with a GPU that runs at half the speed of a 5870.
I just ran 64 bit geekbench in Mac OSX mode and got 13330. I have a Hackintosh i7 2770K 3.5Ghz 16GB DDR3 with an ATI Radeon 6870 getting a Cinebench score of 77.09FPS on OpenGL under Windows and 49.3FPS under Mac OS. That's a noticeable discrepancy. I wonder what is doing it.

Still, I only paid $1154.
 

Zwhaler

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So 12 Westmere cores at 2.4Ghz give a geekbench of 18,000. The new Macbook Pros with 4 Ivy Bridge cores at 2.7Ghz give a geekbench of 12,000. So with one third the number of cores you get two thirds the performance.
Yes, comparing CPUs from different generations with different clock speeds... the point of a workstation is expandability and desktop graphics.
 

G5isAlive

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So it just so happened that today I rebooted my trusty 2008 Mac Pro and it refused to boot back up. Tons of errors. Took it to the genius bar and it needs a new logic board. So I picked up the 12 core mac pro since I need a desktop. Got it home and started to set it all up but got nothing but beachballs and crashes. Put it right back in the box for return. Nice. Guess I am using a mac mini till next year for my main desktop.

I did manage to 32bit geekbench it. Got a 18070 score.
why not just return it for a replacement? obviously not all mac pro's are going to be lemons...
 

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