Government Officials Praise 'Activation Lock' Feature of iOS 7 Following Public Release

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    A pair of prosecutors, New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman and San Francisco District Attorney George Gascón, have been pressing Apple for months over a rash of thefts of mobile devices, including iPhones and iPads. Gascón in particular had been pushing for a 'kill switch' that could permanently disable stolen iOS devices.

    Today, Gascón and Schneiderman praised Apple's release of the Activation Lock feature in iOS 7, calling it the "world's first attempt to implement a technological solution to the global smartphone theft epidemic".
    The release goes on to note that while Activation Lock is a "step forward", it is ultimately too early to tell if it will cut down on the so-called "Apple Picking" crimes.

    Article Link: Government Officials Praise 'Activation Lock' Feature of iOS 7 Following Public Release
  2. Four oF NINE macrumors 68000

    Four oF NINE

    Sep 28, 2011
    Hell's Kitchen
    This is great step forward for security. Maybe thefts will be reduced.
  3. Eduardo1971 macrumors 65816


    Jun 16, 2006
    Lost Angeles, Ca. usa
  4. stanluca macrumors newbie

    Jan 23, 2011
    Los Angeles, CA
    Craiglist purchases

    What happens if you buy someone's old phone on CL and they report it stolen? Do you end up with a brick? How do you delete iTunes activation account all together?
  5. dayalprem macrumors newbie

    Sep 10, 2013
    Campo Mourao, Brazil
    I don't think so, most of the thefts involved have some connections with the insiders in the apple store. I have personally seen how they work. They make the phone physically dead and then ask for a replacement. this way the TouchID was never used at all by them.
  6. 576316 macrumors 601

    May 19, 2011
    So, when confronted with this screen, there is no way a potential thief could restore the phone in iTunes somehow bypassing this?
  7. vinhen macrumors newbie

    Dec 19, 2011
    How will this Activation Lock affect Find iPhone app? Will it be of any help?
  8. eklof macrumors member

    Jul 20, 2011

    That's the idea. No restore of any kind without the original users apple id. Remains to be seen how secure it is.
  9. taptic macrumors 65816


    Dec 5, 2012
  10. uber_nerd macrumors member

    Aug 19, 2004
    Oh politicians! Yes, this feature was magically created after your grand standing... no one ever thought it was a good idea before that or started all work necessary to bring it to fruition.

    Talk about ego and self-aggrandising!
  11. dayalprem macrumors newbie

    Sep 10, 2013
    Campo Mourao, Brazil
    It makes the phone unusable, until you enter the correct password of the associated account
  12. eklof macrumors member

    Jul 20, 2011
    No, it has nothing to do with find my iphone other that it uses it as on/off i think.
  13. windywalks macrumors 6502

    Mar 12, 2004
    As if the spare parts, as scarce and expensive as they are, aren't enough of an incentive to steal and sell. Save for the logic board that will obviously be locked out.
  14. vsighi macrumors 6502


    Jun 22, 2010
    San Diego, CA
    I do like this...makes me feel like I can leave my iPad/iPhone in the lunch room and come back after one hour and found my device right there on the table :D
  15. SatManager macrumors 6502


    Feb 20, 2012
    Las Vegas
    It is a step forward for security only if people activate "Find my Phone" and put a passcode on the iPhone. Since there are studies that indicate that about half of the phones don't even use a passcode to lock the phone, the "Activation Lock" isn't going to be active. So until Apple requires a passcode to install iOS, security will never be complete on the iPhone.
  16. whooleytoo macrumors 604


    Aug 2, 2002
    Cork, Ireland.
    Not sure how effective it's likely to be. Chances are most thieves will have the iPhone in hand and be several yards down the road before looking at the screen and realising the Activation lock is in place. In some time, if/when the majority of iPhones have this in place, then maybe.
  17. DipDog3 macrumors 65816


    Sep 20, 2002
    Everything you need to know:

    Gazelle also has some good instructions with screenshots:
  18. Larsennet macrumors member

    Dec 15, 2010
    How does this work for companies? If someone is terminated and they don't wipe the phone how does a company get back into the device to wipe & give to someone else? The original user may not want to cooperate.
  19. DaveMcM76 macrumors regular


    Mar 13, 2012
    Funny you should say that - my iPad prompted me to enter a passcode (it didn't have one previously) as part of the iOS 7 setup after the update…. I couldn't see an obvious way to skip it so maybe they have already started down this road….

    Also, having decided earlier to do a full restore update as I had a couple of issues with my OTA update today iTunes wouldn't let me do the restore until I'd turned find my iPhone off off on the iPad and the iPad wouldn't let me turn find my iPhone off without my iCloud username and password.

    So far it seems pretty bulletproof…

    For those asking the official way to pass your phone onto somebody else seems to be turn find my iPhone off and then do a full settings / data reset on the device which will then allow it to be set up under a different iTunes account - see
  20. blackcrayon macrumors 68000

    Mar 10, 2003
    I don't know that a phone passcode is necessary. It still requires the Apple ID password to disable find my iPhone. But correct me if I'm wrong (didn't read this anywhere).
  21. tommyminahan macrumors regular

    Aug 16, 2008
    The company should be using Apple Configurator with Supervised Phones then.
  22. gadgetguy03 macrumors regular

    Nov 1, 2012
    My thought would be that they force them to cooperate or else face legal action.

    If not I'm sure the company will be more than willing to use their lawyers to work with the cellular phone provider and arrange for it to be wiped. Maybe the cell provider would operate a trade where they give the company a new phone while taking the original and wiping it at the factory.

    EDIT: This is just speculation. I do work in HR but I'm only a data entry clerk haha
  23. Yamcha macrumors 68000

    Mar 6, 2008
    What a surprise, obviously governments praise the activation lock features, it gives them the ability to snoop on citizens.
  24. BalalaikaBear macrumors newbie


    Sep 18, 2013
  25. forthelove macrumors newbie

    Mar 6, 2013
    The first thing a smart thief does is erase all content and settings and turn off the phone. If you have a passcode lock, they can't do this without wiping from iTunes. Hopefully this buys you enough time to report it lost/stolen; bricking the device until you enter your AppleID UN/PW.

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