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Its really crazy how people think that the high end graphics card for the current Mac is useless for gaming just because it is mobile. I have a 27" 2011 iMac (just got it) with the 2gb VRAM and it will play minecraft with a 512x texture pack (makes most computers just stall and crash their minecraft) on max settings at 85fps no problem.

Yes I agree, it's kinda dumb that they did not put a desktop graphics card it it but, how often is even a gamer going to do more than what the iMac can handle. And yeah, if you are a gamer.... Go get a windows. There are not many games for Mac.

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Uhhh... It already has a desktop CPU. Where have you been???

i can play minecraft with 09 mbp 13"
i have play diablo3 on 2011 imac 24" , diablo3 is not a GPU demanding game
however, it's so disappointing when i cant max out the setting without lagging.

i'm going to buy the max out high end 27" imac 2012, but i need to be sure it can handle 100% of game in mid-high setting and at least 70% of game in high profile in the following 2 years.

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I can't understand why people think a desktop GPU will be seen in the iMac.

It doesn't make any sense. Look at the form factor of a desktop GPU, then think about the inside of an iMac.

A desktop GPU is forever designed to be used in an ATX style case. It's design for cooling, mounting, video output, power connection, PCIe connection, etc., are all for a typical modular ATX style case. The end.


maybe apple will figure out how to do it.
its much easier to gain horse power if switch to desktop GPU

but why no mobile GPU SLI x 2 or x3?
the space for optical drive can be another one or two mobile GPU
 
i'm going to buy the max out high end 27" imac 2012, but i need to be sure it can handle 100% of game in mid-high setting and at least 70% of game in high profile in the following 2 years.

First of all, they never made a 24" iMac in 2011. Secondly, yes a '09 air can play minecraft. But can it play it fine with a 512x texture pack. Look up photorealism texture pack. A normal texture pack each block is 16x16 pixels. Photo realism is 512x512 pixels. To run this texture pack it is best to allocate 3-4 gb of ram to minecraft.
 
Top end has to be 7970m or 680m which are effectively equivalent and the logical progression from the 6970m.

However this does leave the "pro" line looking underpowered, so maybe they will decide to nerf the next gen CPU.

If they purposely cripple an iMac so that the graphic performance doesn't exceed the 2010 card they are using in their neglected Mac Pro, I think I might cry.
 
If they purposely cripple an iMac so that the graphic performance doesn't exceed the 2010 card they are using in their neglected Mac Pro, I think I might cry.

It's a god damn shame that is the best card they put in the Mac Pro line. Nay, it's an outrage.
 
It's a god damn shame that is the best card they put in the Mac Pro line. Nay, it's an outrage.

However, it was the best card (well, almost) people can get back in 2010. Means 2010 MacPro was actually great at the time.

Now .. it's a terrible piece of ancient aluminum slab costs $2500 or more. Should cost less than $1500 nowadays.
 
I am hoping for a decked out GPU in the new iMac. I have a mid-2007 iMac and I believe the time is right for a mad upgrade!

I really really want some serious gaming power in the next iMac. I feel that the time is right and the market is right for a serious gaming rig. Please make it happen in the new iMacs!
 
Is it just me or would anyone else trade a larger size for a better GPU?

Yes and no. I really enjoy he AIO form factor, I just don't think it's possible to get a desktop card in one no matter how much size you are willing to add, if you still want it to look good in the end.

The mobile cards this year are a good sign that we can start to get something that at least resembles desktop performance.
 
Benchmarks were I believe on notebookcheck. It's been a while but I think I had to back into the number - 680m vs 7970m and then 7970m vs 6970m.

I've looked into it, and basically 7970m = 680m depending on the task / applications (guessing its because software that is optimise in CUDA or open cl). and the jump from 6970m -> 7970m more like a minimum 50% performance upgrade...

The GPU in 2012 imac would be the most exciting thing IMO, since Ivy bridge only benefits for laptop, ie : lower tdp, intel 4000 hd.
 
I've looked into it, and basically 7970m = 680m depending on the task / applications (guessing its because software that is optimise in CUDA or open cl). and the jump from 6970m -> 7970m more like a minimum 50% performance upgrade...

The GPU in 2012 imac would be the most exciting thing IMO, since Ivy bridge only benefits for laptop, ie : lower tdp, intel 4000 hd.

yes I agree, gpu is far more important right now. If I didn´t bother about the gpu I would buy the current long time ago. Even the geekbench score of the latest hardly scrores any better than the previous models, if I´m not mistaken. From what I know the Ivy bridge cpu doesn´t really make a breakthrough speed bump, it´s mostly the power usage and such which has been significantly improved. I hope for gtx 680m and dream of gtx 680 :)
 
Hopefully they put 1gb VRAM minimum in all of them, whatever it is -.-

Most of these Nvidia cards only come in 2GB+.

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I've looked into it, and basically 7970m = 680m depending on the task / applications

680M seems to net about 15% over 7970m. But you're correct that is does depend on task / applications, and there's nothing inherently wrong with the 7970m (except perhaps that AMD logo if you're Apple right now).
 
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