Graphics Card for new 15" rMBP?

Discussion in 'MacBook Pro' started by GrumbleFly, Jun 6, 2013.

  1. GrumbleFly macrumors newbie

    Nov 1, 2012
    Thoughts? Are they going to stick with the GT650M 1GB, or update it? I use my 15" for a lot of gaming, and would consider trading it for a new one if the graphics card is going to receive a significant bump.
  2. B..., Jun 6, 2013
    Last edited: Jun 6, 2013

    B... macrumors 68000


    Mar 7, 2013
    750 or 60M, a 5-25% faster rebrand and overclock of the 600 series.
  3. Asuriyan macrumors 6502a

    Feb 4, 2013
    It's another Kepler-architecture card, and probably the 750M. Wait for Maxwell if you want any kind of meaningful increase.
  4. atelliyan macrumors newbie

    Jun 6, 2013
    Does anyone know what is common for year over year graphics performance increases?
    I think if they use the 750M they will up the Vram to 2GB. 1gb is pretty low for such a high resolution display.
    Keeping fingers crossed for the 760M though.
  5. B... macrumors 68000


    Mar 7, 2013
    2GB is most likely not going to happen. Maybe as a BTO option.
  6. smakdown61 macrumors regular

    Aug 21, 2008
    I'd like to see the low end model have just the iris pro and be priced at $1799....but I doubt we'll get that.
  7. atelliyan macrumors newbie

    Jun 6, 2013
    1GB of Vram has been available since the early 2011 mbp
    2 years seems like it would be enough time to offer 2gb as an option but who knows.
    Seeing as the 650 to 750 is not a big jump and the retina screen could use a bit more power I wouldn't be surprised if they added 2gb as an option... but then again I wouldn't be surprised if they just put a 750 and called it a day.
  8. atelliyan macrumors newbie

    Jun 6, 2013
    a 750 seems like it would offer little to no additional performance over the current 650 in the rmbp seeing as the 750 is just an overclocked 650 and the 650 in rmbp is already overclocked.
  9. UBS28 macrumors 6502a

    Oct 2, 2012
    A 750m performs above the 660m. With GDDR5 memory it is comparable to a 670m.


    1 GB is very low in 2013. Apple should bump it to 2 gb atleast.
  10. B... macrumors 68000


    Mar 7, 2013
    I agree they should, but they most likely won't. Apple "should" do a lot of things, but they usually do not.
  11. atelliyan macrumors newbie

    Jun 6, 2013
    The GT 650m in the retina mbp is already overclocked to 900mhz and already has GDDR5 vram. I believe it also outperforms the stock gtx 660m. unless there are other changes between the 650 and 750 I doubt they'll overclock the same chip even further and call it a day. An under clocked 760 may be more likely if graphics performance is a priority for apple.
  12. cirus macrumors 6502a

    Mar 15, 2011

    With boost

    rmbp 650m 900 core 1250 memory

    660m 950 core 1250 memory

    750m 967 core 1250 memory + boost (core speed usually of 1050+)
  13. Badrottie Suspended


    May 8, 2011
    Los Angeles
    When will Apple switch back to AMD Radeon GPU? :apple:
  14. koulmj Suspended


    Mar 18, 2013
  15. inscrewtable, Jun 7, 2013
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    inscrewtable macrumors 68000


    Oct 9, 2010
    Isn't the GT650M a lesser GPU than the previously used 6970m? I don't understand why they use the 650 across the entire range of mbp's that use GPU's. :confused:

    spec comparison
  16. thunng8 macrumors 6502a

    Feb 8, 2006
    No, previous gen was 6770m
  17. thekev macrumors 604


    Aug 5, 2010
    You're talking about Apple here. The low end 15" early 2011 and the 2011 mini both shipped with 256 in 2011, the mini into Q3 2012. They aren't very generous on that one.
  18. atelliyan, Jun 7, 2013
    Last edited: Jun 7, 2013

    atelliyan macrumors newbie

    Jun 6, 2013
    If graphics is a priority for you and the new rMBP only gets a GT 750M then you might as well save money get a refurbished ivy bridge rMBP and OC through bootcamp.
  19. Eyeless916 macrumors newbie

    Dec 10, 2009
    Sacramento, CA
    so far the way all the 700 series cards have been going they seem to be an upgrade from the previous 600 series. Like the 770 is in fact a higher clocked 680. the 760 will probably be a higher clocked with more cuda engines activated 670 and so on. So it will be faster =) hopefully.
  20. luffytubby macrumors 6502a


    Jan 22, 2008
    that analyst kuo believes they might remove the dGPU entirely and go integrated graphics.

    people will cry

    and people will tell them they shouldnt have bought macs for gaming.

    at least thats what happened with MBP13 when it went from dGPU to integrated.
  21. B... macrumors 68000


    Mar 7, 2013
    That is different. Intel forced Apple to have 4 chips whereas previously 2 would work. Apple needed to save space so the dGPU got cut. That is why the previous gen 320M (I believe) was stronger than Intel's GMA.
  22. Freyqq macrumors 601

    Dec 13, 2004
    The difference here is that an intel cpu with iris pro (intel 5200) would have a:
    1. slower CPU than the previous rmbp 15
    2. slower GPU than the previous rmbp 15
    3. better power profile, but only when taxing the GPU

    In your example, it got a faster CPU but slower GPU.

    If apple uses the Iris Pro, it will be a slower computer all around compared to the PREVIOUS GEN rmbp...which is why I think it is highly unlikely. Instead, I think it'll go in a 13" rmbp.
  23. ahdickter macrumors 6502

    Jun 12, 2011
    Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
    Except that running solely on integrated graphics is an ideal situation for Apple. With the Iris Pro 5200 graphics managing to match the capability of the 650M (almost), it makes more sense for Apple to not use the 700M series of dGPUs. Overall, the rMBP would run much cooler if it only had integrated graphics.
  24. B... macrumors 68000


    Mar 7, 2013
    Can you link to that benchmark? It was my understanding that Iris Pro was only 50%-60% of the performance of the 650M. It would be quite a downgrade, I heard, but if you found otherwise...
  25. Freyqq macrumors 601

    Dec 13, 2004

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