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I found this article very interesting, even the references that it had at the end were fascinating.

http://gizmodo.com/5555953/fanboyism-and-brand-loyalty

Not this goes both ways. For everyone Apple fan that refuses to admit it has some weaknesses, there is an Andriod fan that refuses to admit that Andriod has some very glaring weaknesses as well, and there are somethings that the iPhone simply does better.

Here is a partial excerpt...

The Misconception: We prefer the things we own over the things we don't because we made rational choices when we bought them. The Truth?

The truth is that you prefer the things you own because you rationalize your past choices to protect your sense of self.

The Internet changed the way people argue.

Check any comment system, forum or message board and you will find fanboys going at it, debating why their chosen product is better than the other guy's.

In modern consumer cultures like America, people compete for status through comparing their taste in products. (You can read more on how that works here: Selling Out).

Mac vs. PC, PS3 vs. XBox 360, iPhone vs. Android – it goes on and on.

Usually, these arguments are between men, because men will defend their ego no matter how slight the insult. These are also usually about geeky things that cost lots of money, because these battles take place on the Internet where tech-savvy people get rowdy, and the more expensive a purchase, the greater the loyalty to it.

Fanboyism isn't anything new, it's just a component of branding, which is something marketers and advertisers have known about since Quaker Oats created a friendly logo to go on their burlap sacks.

There was, of course, no friendly Quaker family making the oats back in 1877. The company wanted people to associate the trustworthiness and honesty of Quakers with their product. It worked.

This was one of, if not the first, such attempt to create brand loyalty – that nebulous emotional connection people have with certain companies which turns them into defenders and advocates for corporations who don't give a ****.

In experiments where people were given Coke and Pepsi in unmarked cups and then hooked up to a brain scanner, the device clearly showed a certain number of them preferred Pepsi while tasting it.

When those people were told they where drinking Pepsi, a fraction of them, the ones who had enjoyed Coke all their lives, did something unexpected. The scanner showed their brains scrambling the pleasure signals, dampening them. They then told the experimenter afterward they had preferred Coke in the taste tests.

They lied, but in their subjective experiences of the situation, they didn't. They really did feel like they preferred Coke after it was all over, and they altered their memories to match their emotions.

They had been branded somewhere in the past and were loyal to Coke. Even if they actually enjoyed Pepsi more, huge mental constructs prevented them from admitting it, even to themselves.

Add this sort of loyalty to something expensive, or a hobby which demands a large investment of time and money, and you get a fanboy. They defend their favorite stuff and ridicule the competition, ignoring facts if they contradict their emotional connection.

So, what creates this emotional connection to stuff and the companies who make doo-dads?

Marketers and advertising agencies call the opposite of fanboys hostages.

Hostages have no choice but to buy certain products, like toilet paper and gasoline. Since they can't choose to own or not to own the product, they are far less likely to care if one version of toilet paper is better than another, or one gas station's fuel is made by Shell or Chevron.

On the other hand, if the product is unnecessary, like an iPad, there is a great chance the customer will become a fanboy because they had to choose to spend a big chunk of money on it. It's the choosing one thing over another which leads to narratives about why you did it.

If you have to rationalize why you bought a luxury item, you will probably find ways to see how it fits in with your self-image.

Branding builds on this by giving you the option to create the person you think you are through choosing to align yourself with the mystique of certain products.

Apple advertising, for instance, doesn't mention how good their computers are. Instead, they give you examples of the sort of people who purchase those computers. The idea is to encourage you to say, "Yeah, I'm not some stuffy, conservative nerd. I have taste and talent and took art classes in college."

Are Apple computers better than Microsoft-based computers? Is one better than the other when looked at empirically, based on data and analysis and testing and objective comparisons?

It doesn't matter.

Those considerations come after a person has begun to see themselves as the sort of person who would own one. If you see yourself as the kind of person who owns Apple computers, or who drives hybrids, or who smokes Camels, you've been branded.

Once a person is branded, they will defend their brand by finding flaws in the alternative choice and pointing out benefits in their own.

There are a number of cognitive biases which converge to create this behavior.

The Endowment Effect pops up when you feel like the things you own are superior to the things you do not.

Psychologists demonstrate this by asking a group of people how much they think a water bottle is worth. The group will agree to an amount around $5, and then someone in the group will be given the bottle for free.

Then, after an hour, they ask the person how much they would be willing to sell the bottle back to the experimenter for. They usually ask for more money, like $8.

Ownership adds special emotional value to things, even if those things were free.

Another bias is the Sunk Cost Fallacy. This is when you've spent money on something you don't want to own or don't want to do and can't get it back.

For instance, you might pay too much for some takeout food that really sucks, but you eat it anyway, or you sit through a movie even after you realize it's terrible.

Sunk Cost can creep up on you too. Maybe you've been a subscriber to something for a long time and you realize it costs too much, but you don't end your subscription because of all the money you've invested in the service so far.

Is Blockbuster better than Netflix, or Tivo better than a generic DVR? If you've spent a lot of money on subscription fees, you might be unwilling to switch to alternatives because you feel invested in the brand.

These biases feed into the big daddy of behaviors which is most responsible for branding, fanboyism and Internet arguments about why the thing you own is better than the thing the other guy owns – Choice Supportive Bias.

Choice Supportive Bias is a big part of being a person, it pops up all the time when you buy things.

It works like this: You have several options, like say for a new television. Before you make a choice you tend to compare and contrast all the different qualities of all the televisions on the market.

Which is better, Samsung or Sony, plasma or lcd, 1080p or 1080i – ugh, so many variables!

You eventually settle on one option, and after you make your decision you then look back and rationalize your actions by believing your television was the best of all the televisions you could have picked.... (excerpted)...
 
According to the article, there's far more fanboys than fangirls. :(
 
Hell, that's nothing. Did you know that if I ask you "would you like a potato chip" science has proven that you answer and THEN your brain starts thinking?

That means your brain doesn't decide if you want it chip...it just thinks of reasons why that thing you just said was a good idea. We just THINK we decided and then spoke. But that's because our brains lie to us.

Smart-phone decisions are way, way down on the list of important choices we basically make without thinking. This is just the tip of the iceberg.
 
And I thought I was just following Macrumors to get insight into perceived product innovations so I could predict which way the stock was going to go.

I only thought I was in it for the money! Damn!
 
I really go for the best product, I have some loyalty yes, but my loyalties come from products that work. I had a nightmare with netgear routers, so went with linksys, what a difference.

Both of my custom computers I built, I ended up getting Gigabyte mother boards, never had a problem with them, and they were cheaper than ASUS.

But I got an ASUS laptop, over any other brand because the offered a 1 year accidental protection plan, and usb 3.0

Western digital over seagate, because in the office I work in at least 5 Seagate drives come in dead, for ever 1 western digital drive.

Corsair is the single one brand I have a loyalty to just because my friends and others have recommended them to me. I have never had a problem with them. And I only have limited experience using different brands at work. I have never had any ram problems with any brand... so why I still get corsair? because I seem to think it's better.

Buying the iPhone to me was a no brainier, my windows 5 phone was stolen 3 months before the release of the original iPhone. And what the iPhone could do compared to the phones at the time just blew me away. And it had a vastly cheaper data plan.

The 3GS was purchased because at the time it was sill better, Android didn't even exist.
 
This is addressed to both people like my friend who is convinced that the Motorola Driod he has is superior to both my 3GS and the new iPhone.

And it's also addressed to the people here who insist that Apple can do no wrong and that there would be no advantages to a smartphone with a 4.3 inch display for things like browsing the web, reading books or watching videoes or to an energy efficent OLED display over the 3.5 inch displays used in iPhones.
 
nexusoneforums.com also has a ton of fanboyism. Mac users don't have the monopoly in this department.

And then we have Macrumors. ;)

Obviously, if you go to a site that focuses on a specific topic, the majority of people that go there all share similar interests.

At the end of the day, I like all my geeky tech toys, from my Mac Mini to my $300 Acer Windows 7 laptop that I constantly tether to my Motorola Droid (or my Nexus One or my Droid Incredible... Palm Pre Plus...and I'm probably going to buy the new iPhone *sigh*).

Choices are great. :)
 
Macrumors is awesome. But there's plenty of fanboys here to.

The ones that insist 3.5 inches is the perfect size for web browsing, book reading and video viewing. :rolleyes:

The ones that say Flash is useless, or that said that Multitasking was unneccesary.

The ones that say Universal Voice Controls aren't worth it (but will change their opinion the second Apple implements them) for example... Here's a feature I'm surprised Apple still hasn't implemented given their purchase of Siri.

Using Voice Controls to do everything on your phone.

I should be able to say, "Open iBook Winne the Pooh" and it should open that book.

Likewise, if you say "Check my email" it should open the email app and refresh it to get the latest emails.

If I say buy iPhone App Shazam, it should take me to the App Store to the Shazam app.



I hope this finds its way into iOS 5, alongside a 4.3 inch screen for the new iPhone.
 
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