Great branding

Discussion in 'Mac Accessories' started by cube, Jul 20, 2016.

  1. cube macrumors G5

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    Seagate's 3TB and 4TB "Laptop HDD" are 15mm high.
     
  2. keysofanxiety macrumors 604

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    That's because they're not designed to go inside laptops.

    I came here to lead, not to read.png
     
  3. cube thread starter macrumors G5

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    That is not how this branding has worked.

    Any "external" logic is rubbish anyway.
     
  4. keysofanxiety macrumors 604

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    You could just as well argue that 9.5mm drives don't fit a large number of ultrabooks, so to brand a 9.5mm drive as a 'laptop' drive is rubbish branding as well.
     
  5. cube thread starter macrumors G5

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    Ultrabooks are crap, not the traditional meaning of laptop.
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    This "Desktop HDD" and "Laptop HDD" bland branding has always been stupid in itself.
     
  6. keysofanxiety macrumors 604

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    Ultrabooks are the essence of what a laptop should be. Laptop = portable computer. The more portable and the more powerful they are, the closer they are to what a laptop should be. Unless you think MacBook Airs are crap too?

    Regardless, if you want a 'traditional' meaning of a laptop, you can buy a bulky Alienware that has weight and thickness deeply resembling my '90s ThinkPad. Oh, and it'd fit a 15mm HDD. ;)
     
  7. cube thread starter macrumors G5

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    Yes. All current Apple laptops are underpowered crap.
     
  8. keysofanxiety macrumors 604

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    No way in a month of Sundays would you be able to hit the hardware bottleneck on a 15" rMBP. There are people who for their livelihood, mix & master music, and do professional photo/video editing on Macs, far older and less powerful.

    Would I love to see Macs updated with newer hardware ASAP, and offer a little more value for money? Heck yes!

    Does the fact they haven't been updated in a year make them less useful than they were when first released? Heck no!

    Some food for thought... :)

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  9. cube thread starter macrumors G5

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    Of course you hit the bottleneck on an MBP. The SSD is small and 4 cores are not enough (although the latter only resolved in huge "laptops").
     
  10. keysofanxiety macrumors 604

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    Yeah, I'm sure you'd regularly max the i7-4980HQ CPU found in BTO 15" rMBPs. What do you do for your job? Decompile the Matrix?

    Plus I don't know if you've looked at benchmarks recently, but Intel haven't released any mobile processors more powerful than that. The i7-5950HQ has practically identical performance.

    Can you name which mobile Intel processor with considerably better performance should be shipping in 15" rMBPs?
     
  11. cube thread starter macrumors G5

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    Yes, I max out that sort of thing.

    There should be no excessively thin laptops, that's the point. A normal one would still be 4-core.

    What I would like is a 6-core Xeon laptop that weighs no more than 3.3Kg, as 5Kg for 12-core is too much. Even if it's still weak.
     
  12. keysofanxiety macrumors 604

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    But there can't be a 6-core Xeon laptop unless Intel release a 6-core Xeon mobile processor.

    If what you're doing maxes out that sort of CPU, then the tradeoff of power just isn't worth portability, and there's a snowball's chance in Hell you'll have anything close to powerful enough for what you need in a portable device!

    So you'd buy a mega powerful desktop instead. Probably a dual-CPU HP workstation. Unless you're constantly on the road and regularly need access to unlimited power at a moment's notice...

    I dunno Cube, I'm starting to have my doubts about you being a super spy who refuses to run Windows :D

    In all seriousness, what you want right now isn't feasible. If the tech is released, then Apple should put it in. If not, what can they do? I want Mac updates as much as the next man, and Apple shouldn't be charging so much for old tech, but come on... :)
     
  13. cube thread starter macrumors G5

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    No need for mobile processor. There are Xeon laptops with 6 to 12 cores, but they are not very mobile.
     
  14. keysofanxiety macrumors 604

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    Could you name one? Just one.

    Hmm, we kinda got off the beaten track talking about 15mm laptop HDDs, didn't we :oops:
     
  15. cube thread starter macrumors G5

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    Eurocom had 12-core Xeon, 5Kg, 30 minutes battery laptops for example.

    But now they make lighter mobile Xeon laptops.

    Any way, the biggest problem of the rMBP are not taking a 2.5" drive and the removal of ports.
     
  16. keysofanxiety macrumors 604

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    Right you are! Crumbs, that is a bit of a beast. Yeah, you certainly would be hard pressed to consider that a laptop. More a desktop on wheels with a UPS. :D

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  17. cube thread starter macrumors G5

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    One line is "mobile server". And yes, I would consider the battery more like an UPS.

    Great if you're not walking around with them.
     

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