Great DSLR+2 Lenses setup at bargin price-thoughts?

Discussion in 'Digital Photography' started by richskl, Aug 8, 2008.

  1. richskl macrumors newbie

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    Hi,

    Having dabbled around with P&S and bridge cameras for 5 years I've finally decided to step up to a DSLR. After a huge amount of reading reviews etc. I've put together the following package (all second hand refurbished grade excellent++ stock):

    Canon 20D
    Sigma 24-70mm f/2.8 EX DG Macro
    Canon EF 70-300/4-5.6 IS USM

    The above I got for about $1400 total from a reputable refurb dealer with 6 mo warranty. When I save up some more cash I may get a wide angle lens for the low end. Is the above package good quality for the price?? I will be doing mainly amateur travel/wildlife photography (not birds).

    thanks.
     
  2. ProwlingTiger macrumors 65816

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    Yeah, you got a good deal, I'd say. The 20D is a good camera too. And the Canon lenses is a good addition, though I personally have a Tamron model, same specs.
     
  3. jampat macrumors 6502a

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    Personally, I'd save up for a bit an pick up a 70-200. The extra stop (or two) can be very helpful when shooting wildlife. It keeps your shutter speed up and helps to isolate your subject from the background. I think you are on the right track with the 24-70 and 20d though. Have fun.
     
  4. taylorwilsdon macrumors 68000

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    Not a great deal in my opinion. 20d is $400 refurb/used, Sigma 24-70 is $200, Canon 70-300 is is $400. That's $1000, $1400 is too much.

    Here's what I'd do.
    Canon 30d - used/refurb $550
    Tamron 17-50mm f/2.8 $350
    Canon 70-200 f/4 L $450

    = $1350

    You could also swap the 70-200 for your 70-300 IS for extra reach, but the L is a better lens.
     
  5. richskl thread starter macrumors newbie

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    btw. forget to mention that i'm in the UK. taylorwilsdon: those two lenses were actually my alternate list. Only problem is they don't cover the 50-70 mm range and don't give as much reach. Also the canon 30D and L lens cannot be had for those prices over here. The 30D is going for ~$650 on ebay right now. I guess the refurb market in the US is larger hence lower prices?
     
  6. CrackedButter macrumors 68040

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    So you're from the UK like me, why not go to www.mifsuds.com and have a look at their refurb gear. They have a 30D for £350 and you can get the 28-105mm f3.5/4.5 for £149 and the 75-300mm f4/5.6 for £69 bringing you into a grand total of: £569

    Much cheaper with cash to spare and other lenses on offer to you still.
     
  7. ChrisA macrumors G4

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    That 300mm f/5.6 lens is not going to work as well as you think. I would MUCH rather have a 200 f/2.8 f/5.6 is just to slow

    Also 24-70 is really not wide enough. Pick up a used 18-55 "kit" lens. the 18-50 range is what you will use most of the time, 24. is not wide at all on that camera.

    You are going to need a good tripod if you really want that 300 f/5.6 lens.

    Why is it that almost every beginning SLR user things he wants an ultra-long f/5.6 lens?
     
  8. Kebabselector macrumors 68030

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    That 75-300 is probably one of the worst lenses Canon have ever made.

    The 70-300 f/4-5.6 IS is a decent bit of glass. It's not an L series, but still decent.
     
  9. CrackedButter macrumors 68040

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    It probably is but it looks similar to the one the thread starter was offered, if it is I've saved him some money anyway for getting it cheaper elsewhere! :D
     
  10. Kebabselector macrumors 68030

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    mmmm, not too sure if it is saving money as you'd probably want to get rid of it after using it for about 5 minutes :p
     
  11. miloblithe macrumors 68020

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    Where are you finding these prices, like a Sigma 24-70 for $200?
     
  12. RainForRent macrumors 6502

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    This sounds like a good deal, but like others have said, I would recommend (even if it isnt AS long) a faster telephoto. Enjoy it.
     
  13. richskl thread starter macrumors newbie

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  14. richskl thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Thanks for all the feedback.

    The advantage of the canon 70-300 is the IS. As I'm using it mainly for travel photography that's gonna let me do a lot of handheld shots. The 70-200 f4 L is also more expensive over here, and a 70-200 f2.8 is too heavy!

    I thought it would be better to get a dedicated wide angle lens for the low end (<24mm) when I can next afford it.
     
  15. epicwelshman macrumors 6502a

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    Am I the only person who doesn't care about IS/VR/OS etc? I understand its use for low light telephoto shots without a tripod, but unless you're often doing that then is it really much use? I'm not trying to ignite an argument, but it really seems more of a marketing ploy than anything else. Take for example Nikon ad Canon's latest VR/IS kit lenses. Why would you need VR in the 18-55 range? It just seems useless.
     
  16. Cave Man macrumors 604

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    Four stops.

    There are times when it comes in really handy, for example, when shooting waterfalls.
     
  17. epicwelshman macrumors 6502a

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    Do you mean to achieve a motion effect while keeping everything else sharp (ie like an ND filter but without a tripod)?
     
  18. AlaskaMoose macrumors 65816

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    IS is really handy when the camera is handheld and in a low-light situation. It may allow the camera to capture a moving subject that otherwise would look slightly blurred or out of focus. I don't have lenses with IS, and compensate by using a tripod. I would like to see Nikon and Canon going to VR and IS all the way. That's when I can buy non-IS Canon "L" lenses and save some cash in the process :)
     
  19. Cave Man macrumors 604

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    Yes. It's easy to get 1/4" exposures and even 1/2" exposures if you're on a wide FL. Of course, tripods are better but sometimes they're not available.
     
  20. Roy Hobbs macrumors 68000

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    WHere do you find a Canon 70-200 f/4 L for $450??
     
  21. taylorwilsdon macrumors 68000

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    I've had 2, bought one for $440 and the other for $450, so they're obviously available for that. Sold them for the same. Both were minty mint. Try fred miranda, potn for good deals. I saw one for $400 a little while ago in good shape.
     
  22. miloblithe macrumors 68020

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    I see the Sigma 24-70 on keh.com for $350 for one in excellent condition, $380 for EX+. The only 70-200 f/4 on Fredmiranda I saw was for $600--obviously that's probably not used. I think you're talking about prices that are hard to find, at best. Admittedly, I bought a Sigma 24-70 f/2.8 with two filters for $200, but I got a steal. No way that's a price anyone can consistently find.
     

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