Greenpeace Features Apple as 'Green Energy Innovator' in New Report

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Environmental activist group Greenpeace, which has in the past taken Apple to task over environmental issues, has released a new report entitled "Clicking Clean: How Companies are Building the Green Internet" which classifies Apple along with Google and Facebook as "green energy innovators". The report praises Apple for its commitment to renewable energy, awarding the company three "A" grades and a "B" grade in the group's four rating categories.
    The full report (PDF) highlights Apple's strong performance in transparency, its commitments to renewable energy and siting of facilities in areas with access to renewable energy, and its deployment of and advocacy for renewable energy. The only area where Greenpeace gives a slight downgrade to Apple is in energy efficiency and mitigation, where the group believes that Apple could do more to share details on its energy efficient facility designs to help the industry in general become more environmentally friendly.

    Greenpeace was initially quite sour on Apple's renewable energy plans for its flagship North Carolina data center, believing the company to be relying mostly on coal-powered energy sources. Apple took issue with Greenpeace's claims, but the publicity seemed to have encouraged Apple to become more open about its commitments to renewable energy as it publicly stated its intentions to run all of its data center on 100% renewable energy. While Greenpeace continued to overestimate Apple's energy needs for the North Carolina facility for some time, the group appears to now be satisfied with Apple's disclosures and is on board with the company's energy policies.

    Article Link: Greenpeace Features Apple as 'Green Energy Innovator' in New Report
  2. Sandstorm macrumors 6502a


    Sep 27, 2011
    Riga, Latvia
    This is one thing I hope everyone copies from Apple ASAP. :)

    PS - kudos to Google & Facebook too.
  3. bullamakanka macrumors newbie

    Apr 2, 2014
    This is perhaps off-topic, but I'm always irked by the use of cooling towers with "smoke" used to symbolize the "bad" side of energy. This is not smoke. They are cooling towers, and it's steam/water vapor that is seen coming out. Not smoke.

    I worked at a design firm in Sydney a while back, and one of the clients was the NSW Energy Association (the exact name eludes me), and one of the biggest problems they had from a PR perspective was this very thing: people think it's smoke coming out of those big towers, which obviously looks bad. The real smoke is coming out of the super-tall chimney stacks, which is almost invisible these days.
  4. masterhiggins macrumors regular

    Nov 30, 2003
  5. bzero macrumors member

    Apr 1, 2014
    And what is so environmentally-unfriendly about Zynga? Their apps being trash doesn't count.
  6. Unggoy Murderer macrumors 6502

    Jan 28, 2011
    Livingston, Scotland
    Greenpeace are hypocritical, corrupt to the top liars motivated by politics above anything else. Was it not Greenpeace that were protesting outside Apple's Irish HQ a couple of years ago?

    That organisation disgusts me to my core.
  7. everything-i macrumors 6502a

    Jun 20, 2012
    London, UK
    The cooling towers still represent a colossal wast of energy. There are energy recovery systems that can be employed which can heat whole towns from a single power stations waste heat. Having said that I do think , as you say, these are too often represented in the context of pollution, rather than energy efficiency, which is ridiculous.
  8. jvacek macrumors newbie

    Jun 19, 2011
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    AngerDanger macrumors 68030


    Dec 9, 2008
  10. Porco macrumors 68030


    Mar 28, 2005
    You make a good and valid point, but at least they put what appears to be a mine cart full of coal next to it, indicating the cooling towers are at least part of the process of burning fossil fuels to produce energy, which is surely the point they are aiming to illustrate.
  11. ChrisCW11 macrumors 6502a

    Jul 21, 2011
    if Greenpeace actually cared

    Then they should be outraged over the amount of energy required for Bitcoin to exist. The "mining" operations that increase the complexity of the Bitcoin security are consuming hundreds of megawatts of power 24/7 around the world.

    However Greenpeace probably doesn't want to be outraged about Bitcoin because they most likely use this currency to anonymously fund their less desirable, terrorist like activities.
  12. roadbloc macrumors G3


    Aug 24, 2009
    Looks like Microsoft and Yahoo might be attempting to follow suit. Good on all the companies who are putting in effort to be greener.
  13. Will do good macrumors 6502a

    Will do good

    Mar 24, 2010
    I don't believe in or trust Greenpeace. Their history of actions has speak more than enough for me not to listen to them.
  14. Lesser Evets macrumors 68040

    Lesser Evets

    Jan 7, 2006
    I'd like to see how much each of these companies kick back to Greenpeace to keep them at bay. That would be telling. Apple is probably a little more "charitable" than Google or Facebook.
  15. H2SO4 macrumors 68040

    Nov 4, 2008
    Data centres are terrible places for green credentials too. The bigger ones have so much Power supply and data redundancy it's criminal.
  16. hexor macrumors 6502

    Nov 26, 2002
    Something still seems wrong if you cut down a large swath of forest in order to install photovoltaic panels.
  17. Tiger8 macrumors 68020

    May 23, 2011
    Amazon are the reason why we talk 'cloud'

    Here we go dissing amazon without giving context.

    Part of the reason why Amazon is so not green is because they prioneered the whole software as a service, server as a service, and platform as a service technologies (the cloud) that Google then Apple replicated. Amazon have been doing this for well over a decade, and they have (wait for it) the biggest cloud footprint.. EVER. You can't compare them to newcomers like Apple.
  18. hexor macrumors 6502

    Nov 26, 2002
    Yeah.. especially when they listed Dell as "greener" for so long simply because Dell "said" they were going to do stuff and ended up not doing it.
  19. T-Will macrumors 6502a


    Sep 8, 2008
    Shame on Dupont, Amazon, Twitter, for using that dirty dirty extremely polluting nuclear power!!!

  20. LastQuadrant macrumors member

    Sep 22, 2013
    This is just a DataCenter report card in terms of the use of Green Energy.

    Samsung doesn't have any major DataCenter's that are big enough that I'm aware of in this country. That's what this report card is based on. It's not based on technology innovation with product design or who has the most technologically advanced DataCenter in terms of functionality, it's just how the DataCenters are constructed and operated from a energy standpoint.


    Nuclear power isn't quite there from a Green energy source since they haven't perfected it yet. They are still running older generation Nuclear power which the byproduct isn't that safe. Eventually they hope to make it so there isn't any negative aspects of Nuclear, but they have to perfect it first and then they have to actually build the plants. They are getting closer and closer, but it's still not 100% there.


    Well, they put the DataCenter in an area that's not a desert.


    What's strange is that Greenpeace has always been attacking Apple over the others for many years and look who's at the top of the list of being Green, yet when is Greenpeace going to start attacking the others that aren't even close to where Apple was a few years ago when they were being attacked?

    Talk about a hyprotical company, Greenpeace gets a D for their inability to go after these other people.


    Zynga doesn't have any money.
  21. crsh1976 macrumors 6502a

    Jun 13, 2011
    The amount of green-washing BS in that report is nothing short of stellar, and I say this about all tech companies, not just Apple.

    I didn't know Greenpeace had sold out like this, but it's not really a surprise tbqh.
  22. John.B macrumors 601


    Jan 15, 2008
    Holocene Epoch
    The Google data center near here gets all their power from a coal-burning power plant.

    For the record, coal plants are the number one source of mercury contamination into the environment, more than all other sources combined.

    But they claim to buy "credits" from a windfarm on the other side of the state, so... hey... Green. :rolleyes:

  23. bookwormsy macrumors 6502

    Jul 7, 2010
    Amazon being so low surprised me. For some reason, I expected them to be "greener".
  24. gains1337 macrumors newbie

    Apr 2, 2014
    hey greenpeace, my mbp is running on diced dolphin!

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