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Is there any difference? As far as I know they use the same exploit, is it worth it for me to rejailbreak my iphone 4 with greenpois0n? (its now jailbroken w Geohots limera1n).

Thanks
 
Is there any difference? As far as I know they use the same exploit, is it worth it for me to rejailbreak my iphone 4 with greenpois0n? (its now jailbroken w Geohots limera1n).

Thanks

i would also like to no, i am on limerain so cant really see the point of switching seeing as greenpoison is limerain with a different name
 
Is there any difference? As far as I know they use the same exploit, is it worth it for me to rejailbreak my iphone 4 with greenpois0n? (its now jailbroken w Geohots limera1n).

Thanks

If you are already Jailbroken you don't need to do it again, no matter how many more tools will come out, unless you got issues

Limera1n and GP are not application like any other .app in the iOS, they don't run in the background, they don't need to be updated it every time a new version comes out, all they do is give you root access and them they are done. That's it... if you got root access (Jailbroke) don't need to worry about how many other tools are out there, or how many new version of the tool you used are out there.

As i said before, "Limera1n and GP are like a screwdriver that you use to screw something in, if you got your screw in, you don't need a new screwdriver... however if you were unable to screw it in, them try using the newer screwdrivers"
 
If you are already Jailbroken you don't need to do it again, no matter how many more tools will come out, unless you got issues

Limera1n and GP are not application like any other .app in the iOS, they don't run in the background, they don't need to be updated it every time a new version comes out, all they do is give you root access and them they are done. That's it... if you got root access (Jailbroke) don't need to worry about how many other tools are out there, or how many new version of the tool you used are out there.

As i said before, "Limera1n and GP are like a screwdriver that you use to screw something in, if you got your screw in, you don't need a new screwdriver... however if you were unable to screw it in, them try using the newer screwdrivers"

Thanks
 
What if we are experiencing one or more of the bugs reported with limera1n? I don't get push notifications anymore and Push Doctor doesn't seem to have resolved it. I've restored and tried again and go the same results.

Do the different jailbreaks affect that portion of iOS differently? I may restore and try greenpois0n anyway.
 
What if we are experiencing one or more of the bugs reported with limera1n? I don't get push notifications anymore and Push Doctor doesn't seem to have resolved it. I've restored and tried again and go the same results.

Do the different jailbreaks affect that portion of iOS differently? I may restore and try greenpois0n anyway.
Both methods use the same exploit BUT the code they inject is different. So Yes they affect iOS differently.

Greenpois0n is the better method.
 
rejailbreak w/ Greenpois0n if you are having trouble w/ Limera1n or if you have nothing else to do...
 
I'm going to hold off for a few days until the mac version comes out so all the bugs (if there really are any) can hopefully get worked out. Not sure which method I will use yet, though...I guess it will have to be GP since Limera1n won't have a mac version for 7 years. :)
 
LimeR1ain GreenP0ison both dont work!

Yes another thread but ive tried both and they dont work. ive restarted phone re jailbroken but nothing! help?
 
I'm sticking with Limera1n until GP gives me a reason to switch, right now LR is running like a champ so I'm making no changes.
 
I'm sticking with Limera1n until GP gives me a reason to switch, right now LR is running like a champ so I'm making no changes.

Agreed, all the crap people talked about this Jailbreak when it came out (mostly chronic dev team peeps), so far i've had 0 problems with either of the 2 phones that i've jailbroken with limera1n. And one of those phones I jailbroke within hours of the jailbreak being released. Props to geohot, save shatter for a rainy day.
 
Agreed, all the crap people talked about this Jailbreak when it came out (mostly chronic dev team peeps), so far i've had 0 problems with either of the 2 phones that i've jailbroken with limera1n. And one of those phones I jailbroke within hours of the jailbreak being released. Props to geohot, save shatter for a rainy day.

What was the point of CDT releasing GP using the same exploit? Just to get a piece of the pie?
 
What was the point of CDT releasing GP using the same exploit? Just to get a piece of the pie?


They seem to be planning to release versions for all 3 platforms (linux, mac, windows) where limera1n doesn't seem interested in anything but windows at this point.

Also, there wouldn't even be a limera1n w/o CDT, the same can't be said the other way around.

Who knows what they do differently, but comex has a pretty good track record at making a bug free/stable userland exploit out of the box, and while he provided the info for geohot to make his userland exploit, I dont think he did the coding there. (who knows tho, as comex's twitter seemed to imply that he helped geohot fix bugs after beta1 of limera1n)
 
Who knows what they do differently, but comex has a pretty good track record at making a bug free/stable userland exploit out of the box, and while he provided the info for geohot to make his userland exploit, I dont think he did the coding there. (who knows tho, as comex's twitter seemed to imply that he helped geohot fix bugs after beta1 of limera1n)


Ha! Are you kidding? Not that I don't appreciate what comex has done for the community, but if anything he has a track record of his initial releases having pretty major bugs. Spirit deleted photos and jailbreakme.com broke Facetime and MMS. With that said, the fixes were usually pretty quick.
 
What was the point of CDT releasing GP using the same exploit? Just to get a piece of the pie?

Point? Let's see, there is already a Windows, Linux, and Ubuntu version of the greenpois0n available with a Mac version to be here soon. Then there is the PwnageTool for Mac that will be out on Sunday or so. geohot has what? Just a Windows version.

Also, CDT did all this work and were just about ready to go live when geohot decided to crash the party with limera1n using a different bootrom exploit. So, CDT had to save their exploit and recode to use the exploit geohot used.

You are criticizing the wrong jailbreak here.

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What was the point of CDT releasing GP using the same exploit? Just to get a piece of the pie?

Pretty much, they don't want Geohot taking all the credit. They also have a mac version which Geohot doesnt for now, but to be honest, they just didn't want to loose the spotlight.
 
Point? Let's see, there is already a Windows, Linux, and Ubuntu version of the greenpois0n available with a Mac version to be here soon. Then there is the PwnageTool for Mac that will be out on Sunday or so. geohot has what? Just a Windows version.

Also, CDT did all this work and were just about ready to go live when geohot decided to crash the party with limera1n using a different bootrom exploit. So, CDT had to save their exploit and recode to use the exploit geohot used.

You are criticizing the wrong jailbreak here.

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Its not about criticizing, its just that limera1n turned out fine. I'm actually happy it came out instead of shatter, shatter wouldn't have jailbroke the 3gs, and for now its been pretty bug free in my experience. I'm not saying shatter or greenpois0n is bad, but it wasn't going to do anything for 3gs owners, besides, I think its better to work on it a little more and not use it until 4.2
 
Dude, everything that you said about greenpois0n can be done for geohots jailbreak to, adding a mac and linux version isn't exactly revolutionary.

Where are these versions? They may not be revolutionary, but at least CDT had a plan for them. What is geohot's plan? When will you see the Linux and Mac versions of his jailbreak?

Read what I wrote again....maybe you will understand it better the second time through.

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Where are these versions? They may not be revolutionary, but at least CDT had a plan for them. What is geohot's plan? When will you see the Linux and Mac versions of his jailbreak?

Read what I wrote again....maybe you will understand it better the second time through.

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I understood it fine the first time, it doesn't change anything. Maybe you have an iPhone 4 so you don't care either way, but some of us have the 3gs on 4.0.2 or 4.1 and would've been stuck if it wasn't for geohots jailbreak. What are you whining about anyway, you can jailbreak your phone and when apple patches the hole shatter will be ready to jailbreak again.
 
Its not about criticizing, its just that limera1n turned out fine. I'm actually happy it came out instead of shatter, shatter wouldn't have jailbroke the 3gs, and for now its been pretty bug free in my experience. I'm not saying shatter or greenpois0n is bad, but it wasn't going to do anything for 3gs owners, besides, I think its better to work on it a little more and not use it until 4.2

if im not mistaken the SHAtter exploit could not have been patched by a firmware update but needed a hardware update so it would not be needed until the next iphone or ipad comes out.
 
if im not mistaken the SHAtter exploit could not have been patched by a firmware update but needed a hardware update so it would not be needed until the next iphone or ipad comes out.

Both exploits are this way. That's what a bootrom exploit is.

I do think geohot's exploit is far superior, only due to the fact that it supports a wider range of hardware. The Chronic Dev Team doesn't deny this, the only thing they're upset about is the timing of the release.

I really don't care about nerd drama; only thing that matters is if my device is supported.
 
just jailbroke my phone for the first time with limera1n. Did it on a friends windows comp, just ran itunes 10 and limera1n and followed the instructions so far so good i think im installing cydia now!
 
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