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Gruber: Apple's Cross-Platform App Support to Debut in 2019, Not 2018

MacFever said:
We are on iOS 11 for iPhone X by the time Apple release this you will probably need a new iPhone to run iOS 13 smoothly... boy oh boy..,Apple the way you force users to upgrade to newer devices to use new software is really chasing a lot of people to Android...all for the quarterly results and shareholders...consumers are actually lower down on your list of priority. :rolleyes: o_O
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Yeah, that's why Apple's Earnings Report is so sucky...

Oh, wait...

:rolleyes:
 
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MacsRuleOthersDrool said:
How in the HELL is anyone being "borderline defrauded" by the Mac mini?
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Because people might accidentally purchase it thinking it is has modern hardware.

Quote from Apple: Mac mini makes everyday tasks a breeze with fourth-generation Intel Core processors, a flash storage option that’s up to 50 percent faster, and wireless performance up to three times quicker than its predecessor. With Intel Iris Graphics or Intel HD Graphics 5000, it also delivers graphics performance up to 90 percent faster than the previous generation.

These claims are being based on a previous generation that came out 6 years ago. The processor is 5 generations old. It barely runs in the stock configuration.
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DNichter said:
Well Macs aren't the only products that people need/want. If the one individual product you need/want hasn't been updated, it probably makes sense to look towards the competition if it is indeed needed at this given time. That's what I would do at least.
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Are you saying it is unreasonable to expect them to fix mistakes within a decade of it being identified?
 
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4jasontv said:
Because people might accidentally purchase it thinking it is has modern hardware.

Quote from Apple: Mac mini makes everyday tasks a breeze with fourth-generation Intel Core processors, a flash storage option that’s up to 50 percent faster, and wireless performance up to three times quicker than its predecessor. With Intel Iris Graphics or Intel HD Graphics 5000, it also delivers graphics performance up to 90 percent faster than the previous generation.

These claims are being based on a previous generation that came out 6 years ago. The processor is 5 generations old. It barely runs in the stock configuration.
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Are you saying it is unreasonable to expect them to fix mistakes within a decade of it being identified?
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Of course not. Your very specific use case should be fixed. I know nothing about it or if it indeed is a bug. Your one example doesn’t mean their software as a whole isn’t up to standards.
 
DNichter said:
Of course not. Your very specific use case should be fixed. I know nothing about it or if it indeed is a bug. Your one example doesn’t mean their software as a whole isn’t up to standards.
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It's not a specific use case. You can't search multiple pdf's in preview.

Those aren't the same links, but you must have figured that because you searched the problem before claiming it was a single use case. Since Previews job is to search documents I would say that, as a whole, it isn't up to standards.
 
4jasontv said:
It's not a specific use case. You can't search multiple pdf's in preview.

Those aren't the same links, but you must have figured that because you searched the problem before claiming it was a single use case. Since Previews job is to search documents I would say that, as a whole, it isn't up to standards.
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I agree. Your one example of a bug is unacceptable. I use iOS so I don’t have this issue and can’t really speak to it.
 
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DNichter said:
I agree. Your one example of a bug is unacceptable. I use iOS so I don’t have this issue and can’t really speak to it.
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My one example of a bug that has persisted for a decade. Yes. It is unacceptable. What iOS app do you use that lets you search multiple PDFs at once? Cause all the ones I have seen only search individual documents.
 
twistedpixel8 said:
Agreed with you until Touch Bar :p I hope that dies a painful death! It’s a complete waste of money. A nice gimmick, not worth $1,000.
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Haha hey I didn't say the TB integration would be welcome or even useful, I just know Apple would try and pull something like that.

BUT! If they actually do manage to make the Touch Bar useful for this Frankenstein OS they're plotting then I'm all for it :)
 
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4jasontv said:
My one example of a bug that has persisted for a decade. Yes. It is unacceptable. What iOS app do you use that lets you search multiple PDFs at once? Cause all the ones I have seen only search individual documents.
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I don’t need to do that for anything, so I haven’t looked into it.
 
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Aldaris said:
And I swear that originally the AirPower mat had a spring 2018 release notation to it.
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No, even when Schiller announced it last September, no timeframe was given except 2018. Apple put up a webpage the same day that also said 2018.

A few thought it would be introduced at the April education event along with iPhone SE2 and Mac laptops, for some odd reason. Just wishful thinking by some.

Speculation and guesses (making stuff up) qualify as rumors I suppose.
 
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PickUrPoison said:
A few thought it would be introduced at the April education event along with iPhone SE2 and Mac laptops, for some odd reason. Just wishful thinking by some.
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No, There was nothing *odd* about that, because there was multiple rumors stating that an iPhone SE two had likeliness of launching during the educational keynote. As well as there was rumors for a possible Mac update as well. When you have so many conflicting rumors that are indicating one thing, you will have those will naturally follow those rumors and develop a belief that a product _could_ launch during a certain time frame, hence; an SE2. Regardless, if a product didn’t launch because of said rumors, that doesn’t make it odd, it makes it incorrect. What _would_ make it odd, is if a rumored product launched when various rumors were not speculating a certain timeframe at all.
 
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No, There was nothing *odd* about that, because there was multiple rumors stating that an iPhone SE two had likeliness of launching during the educational keynote. As well as there was rumors for a possible Mac update as well. When you have so many conflicting rumors that are indicating one thing, you will have those will naturally follow those rumors and develop a belief that a product _could_ launch during a certain time frame, hence; an SE2. Regardless, if a product didn’t launch because of said rumors, that doesn’t make it odd, it makes it incorrect. What _would_ make it odd, is if a rumored product launched when various rumors were not speculating a certain timeframe at all.
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Disagree. Expecting products that have nothing to do with education, like AirPower and the SE2, to be announced at an educational event, is odd. The rumors made no sense; I haven’t gone back to look at who was behind the rumors but they weren’t plausible. Just people trying to get their name out there.

A MacBook Air update would have made sense and I could see people picking that up and running with it.

There are very few decent rumors regarding release timing of Apple products; to this day I haven’t seen any legit rumors regarding the schedule for new iMacs, MacBooks, MacBook Air, MacBook Pro, Mac mini (if at all), iPad Pro or iPhone SE2 (if at all). Apple Watch seems to be a September thing

We do have a strange rumor of back to back releases of AirPod, and a cheaper (Beats branded?) HomePod, which could very well just be a Beats Pill with AirPlay 2. (I don’t think Apple will extend the HomePod branding to Beats, though they may transfer some of the innovative HomePod technology.)

Apple has pre-announced AirPower for this year and Mac Pro for next year. No substantive rumors about either, beyond what Apple has said officially.
 
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twistedpixel8 said:
Am I the only one that doesn’t see how this can work? I don’t understand - you would have to implement so much UI and logic for each platform that apps will become bloated, no? You can’t simply scale apps for iPhone/iPad to Mac size, they wouldn’t look right. Not to mention touch vs. cursor input are used totally differently. Similarly, while the idea of layered pages swiping back/forth works for iOS, I don’t think it does for Mac.
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It won't work the way people are saying. John Gruber actually explains on his blog that this doesn't mean applications will work on both platforms, it's just an effort to make some APIs the same for both MacOS and iOS.

Somehow everyone else is interpreting it exactly the opposite of what he said it's not. It's like they are bizarrely injecting their own hopes on top of it.
 
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