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Guesstimation for refresh?

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nvcplus

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When do you think the next MBA refresh will be?

I am sure they will add thunderbolt. Most likely Sandy Bridge. Anything else?

Will they mess with the design again as well? I know they probably want to get it even thinner than it is now 🙂
 
nvcplus said:
When do you think the next MBA refresh will be?

I am sure they will add thunderbolt. Most likely Sandy Bridge. Anything else?

Will they mess with the design again as well? I know they probably want to get it even thinner than it is now 🙂
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Signs point to June, but no one really knows. I would expect the same case with faster CPUs and integrated 3G.
 
So would people suggest waiting on a MBA purchase until June at this point?

From what I've seen the change to Sandybridge isn't completely straightforward as despite the boost in CPU power it will replace the existing graphics setup?

Also could the release of OSX Lion in the summer impact any refresh plans (or should it be a reason to hold off getting a MBA)?
 
test45 said:
So would people suggest waiting on a MBA purchase until June at this point?

From what I've seen the change to Sandybridge isn't completely straightforward as despite the boost in CPU power it will replace the existing graphics setup?

Also could the release of OSX Lion in the summer impact any refresh plans (or should it be a reason to hold off getting a MBA)?
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1) I plan to. It depends how imminently you need a computer.

2) Yes. Graphics performance may be slightly worse. CPU performance will be far better.

3) The only effect I anticipate is that the new machines may come with Lion preinstalled, saving you the cost of the upgrade. Other than that, it's unlikely to have an effect.
 
Yeah, I'm definitely waiting until the next upgrade. I have no real need for this computer (please don't tell the wife), but have been wanting to replace my two year old netbook.
 
test45 said:
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Also could the release of OSX Lion in the summer impact any refresh plans (or should it be a reason to hold off getting a MBA)?
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That is why I was thinking they might refresh. It seems the minimum to run Lion is going to be a c2d (and nothing lower than the current processor speed of the low end MBA?). I was thinking they might roll out a refresh before or around the launch of Lion.

Well, I was hoping actually. I am going to get a MBA before the summer whether it updates or not.
 
well, i remember an article about core 2 duos last year in summer about intel selling only whats left.. plus u can see that sales of MBA were incredible over past few months, i highly doubt that intel can provide enough chips for apple for another year.. even apple did not expect such a high demand for MBAs...
...i think this summer- new chips, thunderbolt instead of displayport, intel graphics, 720p facetime camera and maybe even backlit keyboard- but that depends on whether there is enough room under the keyboard..
i think all these specs. are obvious
i just hope my MBA ultimate will hold its value so that i can sell it fast🙂
 
I think a processor switch is inevitable at this point. But I wouldn't expect any changes to the SSD, display, ports, or anything else for sometime - 2012 at the earliest is my guess. I'm not convinced that thunderbolt will make it to the MBA just yet, I think Apple will want the MBP to monopolize that for a while.
 
namtaB said:
I think a processor switch is inevitable at this point. But I wouldn't expect any changes to the SSD, display, ports, or anything else for sometime - 2012 at the earliest is my guess. I'm not convinced that thunderbolt will make it to the MBA just yet, I think Apple will want the MBP to monopolize that for a while.
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May I ask why You don't think they will put a Thunderbolt port in the MBA's next refresh?
 
I question the ability to add thunderbolt to the MBA, at least not the 11" MBA. Have you all seen the size of the chip needed for thunderbolt? It would be impressive to see that tucked into the 11" MBA. Now the 13" MBA, no problem.
 
Cicatrix said:
May I ask why You don't think they will put a Thunderbolt port in the MBA's next refresh?
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Its a better business decision to let the MBP monopolize it for awhile until light peak penetrates the market a bit more. It gives the MBP bragging rights to a technology that at this moment in time is relatively useless b/c the rest of the market needs to catch up. Right now the MBA doesn't need thunderbolt to be competitive and it makes no sense to me to add thunderbolt to the MBA at the next refresh, assuming that's going to be this summer. Rather, what the MBA needs to be competitive is a processor swap and that's what I expect to see as the only upgrade in the next refresh. If you've watched Apple over the last few years, they seem to refresh just enough to be competitive but never to the point where they blow their load all at once.
 
I hope they retain the same price points. I was hurting for cash when I got my 11. Now I could afford to go $1200 for a storage upgrade.
 
So far, Macbook Air has been released:

January 2008
October 2008
June 2009
October 2010

There's not a clear pattern like there is with yearly iPhone updates. Even though there is a rumor that there will be a June refresh, it could easily be October. Also, the refresh could be minor, there's no guarantee that it's worth waiting for.

Personally, I'm waiting for the back to school sale before buying, because if I sell the iPod and printer it's $400 off the normal price! That's not going to start until late May/early June, and if rumors are more solid about a MBA update or Lion's release date by then I might wait an extra month or so. Generally though, waiting for the next update is a fools game. Unless you know there is going to be a big update around the corner, just buy a computer when you need it.
 
Waiting

i'm sitting on my Rev B, expect we'll see something before Oct. 11, possibly in the June timeframe according to CNET:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-20031434-64.html

in addition to Sandy Bridge (which apparently will deliver an extra 1-2 hours in battery), maybe Thunderbolt.

One thing not mentioned: I'd definitely expect an HD iSight camera.
 
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JUNE for Sandy Bridge, backlit keyboard (hopefully), thunderbolt (possibly) and SDXC card reader.

They did the same with the 13" unibody macbook which morphed into the 13" Macbook pro 8 months later, with backlit keyboard, integrated battery, firewire (after public outcry) etc.
 
entatlrg said:
Spring/summer 2012

Air's haven't been updated annually yet.
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Are you kidding me? Have you ever looking at an Air release schedule? (Luckily another poster provided one here: )

Patrick946 said:
So far, Macbook Air has been released:

January 2008
October 2008
June 2009
October 2010
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So the air was updated 3 x in 18 months? That's "not annually"? You have a very short term memory. The Problem has been the Intel/Nvidia lawsuit and NAND prices.

Now that Apple is (seemingly) satisfied with SB graphics - in the 13" MBP - I see no reason why they wouldn't move to Sandy Bridge in the MBA. I agree with Patrick in that:

Patrick946 said:
There's not a clear pattern like there is with yearly iPhone updates. Even though there is a rumor that there will be a June refresh, it could easily be October. Also, the refresh could be minor, there's no guarantee that it's worth waiting for.
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I would say it could easily be June. And if not then, I bet October again (before the presumably big christmas rush.

entatlrg said:
LOL, Cnet has a very poor track record for predictions. June maybe, but 2012 not 2011. 🙂
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Where are you getting this 2012 stuff from? Apple letting a computer product stagnate for 18+ months (let alone one that made up 40% of Apple's laptop sales last quarter) is ludicrous.

Also, CNET were the ones that broke the Sandy Bridge coming to the 13" w/o any other graphics chip news as well as important info on Thunderbolt, so where is this whole they have a poor track record thing coming from?
 
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So the best guestimation I can give now is March 10 + 6.5 months. Say, october 2011.
 
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