This guide is PERFECT for Rogers iPhone users. Although we state Rogers several times throughout this thread, I'm pretty sure it will work with just about any Wireless Carrier you can think of.
I personally have tried this out on a whim to see how accurate MrPerfect was on his guide and actually it worked out in me getting a ($15) off my voice and free Caller ID.
The large quote below is from RedFlagDeals via MrPerfect.
As with MrPerfect I am also quite skilled in getting discounts from Rogers retentions, here is my plan:
I will answer the majority of questions for this thread and do my best to help you out with deals. Please note I am only experienced with ROGERS retentions and not other carriers retention reps.
I personally have tried this out on a whim to see how accurate MrPerfect was on his guide and actually it worked out in me getting a ($15) off my voice and free Caller ID.
The large quote below is from RedFlagDeals via MrPerfect.
MrPerfect said:A member from RFD sent me a pm, and I rather address the question here as it would be helpful for the whole community.
Im not great at negotiating, I think I am "decent", I scored a great deal because of many things combined such as
-I have been a customer for 2 years, I got a credit or two, per each call, I didnt get to the plan I have now all of a sudden due to a really generous rep
-I have 4 services with them (consolidated customer relations reps. are more willng to negotiate with you, than regular wireless reps I find), and I always mention that to them
-I researched competition
MYTHS
I find that these below statments are myths and absured
-some reps are really mean and not helpful
-I can't do it its too hard to bargain with them
Yes, some reps are quite difficult but it is not 'impossible' to bargain with them. Remember they have a quota to maintain. If you have ever worked in sales you would know that you have sell a number of products or you get coached, more coaching, until you get fired. These difficult reps, are the ones that can pick out the "b.s" we are giving them. Its like playing hard, if the other party whos what is in your hand, they will not fear you. Likewise, the rep on the other line should not know that you possess info from forums such as HOWARDFORUMS, OR RFD.
IF YOU TELL THEM THAT YOU KNOW ABOUT HOFO OR RFD, or the internet, these reps will care to bargain with you. They KNOW you WONT cancel. And they will call you a bluff. Unless, in certain circumstances you can mention hofo or rfd, otherwise dont mention it. Be ignorant as possible, dont mention words like "retention vlaue pack" or make sure the jargon you use is not language a person who is well verse in retention deal. Stay away from these jargons we often use in RFD, or hofo.
Another thing is, dont be afraid to be "aggressive". You have to be aggressive to get what you want.
Look up government agencies, such as CRTC, Better Business Bureau, and other agencies which the telco companies are signatories to. Arm your self with legal jargon, and be prepared to excercise your "right" to speak to a manager if you do not get what you want.
A lot of the credits I received are from the manager, or office of the pres. as they do not wish to deal with you, and give you what you want.
-things like Rogers changing the LCA, changes to the contracts you see in the bulletons in your wireless bill are GOLD. keep them handy, and call within 30 days, as those are your jailfree cards, as those contracts can help you rid you of your contract, and thus you get leverage to negotiating a better deal. Tell them either you go because they made these changes, or they give you what you want?
TRUST ME, IT WORKS
If Rogers, is gonna screw you over using loopholes, arm yourself with loopholes against them. And be prepared to speak to a manager. If they say a manager will call you back, be firm and say you wish to speak to them now. Chances are the manager wont call you back, and they just want to get rid of you.
STEPS
1. Call 611, and say Cancel (dont use the direct number, as they know you have insider info)
2) tell the customer relations representative nicely, that you are displeased with what you are paying and that competition is offering such and such and thus you want to cancel. BE FIRM, AND ASK THEM HOW MUCH IS IT TO CANCEL.
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the representative will say "oh well the competition is not that great"
you have to offer a rebuttal (always write down your points and rebuttals before making the call)
if the representative does not have any rebutalls for you, chances are that they will give in.
In your points, bring up what Changes Rogers made to the contract, and how you have 30 days to cancel. They will bring up things such as Rogers can change the agreement, then you bring up "cwta.ca" and how it mandates that agreements cannot be changed.
remember, if you are for say fighting for long distance minutes due to the lca change, you always have a right to request arbitration, if office of of pres. or manager does not help you
3) if you are satisfied with your deal, say accept and make sure you get an interaction id. otherwise if you are not happy say you are displeased, and tell them to make a note of the offer, and forward your call to the manager. Mention the same things, and mention your rights as a customer, and how rogers owes you a duty of care eg. not changing the local calling area
(i would google: lca change) and you will see a lot of people got rid of their contracts, or gotten freebies because they voiced their themselves
4)come back to rfd or hofo, and celebrate your success
POINTS TO NOTE
-REMEMBER YOU CAN ALWAYS GO AHEAD WITH THE CANCELLATION, AS ROGERS "WILL" CALL YOU BACK, AND TRY THEIR BEST TO KEEP YOU, THEREFORE DONT BE AFRAID
I DID THAT ONE TIME
another point to note is that REPS dont want to cancel you. The rep has like a quota to maintain, if the rep is doing a lot of cancellation, it gonna look bad on him and he will get discipline, and moreoever he is gonna do paperwork for you cancelling. No one wants to do paperwork.
The key is to be
- FIRM
-WRITE DOWN WHAT YOU ARE GONNA SAY AND REBUTTALS
-RESEARCH COMPETITION, LAWS THAT TELCOS. HAVE TO FOLLOW
-dont give in to their first offer, the first offer is just a bait to see if you will bite. unless the first offer is great, dont take it, trust me they are train to give less, and if customer is persistant on cancelling they will give you more.
good luck guys.
(pardon my grammer i typed too fast of a reply)
As with MrPerfect I am also quite skilled in getting discounts from Rogers retentions, here is my plan:
-$ 30.00 Unlimited Plan w/Unltd Msgs (Unlimited Eve/Wknd Minutes, 450 Weekday Minutes, Unlimited Messaging Bundle (Text/Video/Pic)
-$ 30.00 Data Service Plan 6GB
-$ 8.00 Caller ID
-$ 8.00 Visual Voicemail
-$ 7.00 Early Evening Calling Option (6PM)
-$ 0.00 Unlimited Incoming Calls (3 years)
-$ 15.00 Voice Plan Credit (3 Years)
-$ 10.00 Data Plan Credit (3 Years)
-$ 8.00 Caller ID Credit (3 Years)
-$ 8.00 Visual Voicemail Credit (3 Year)
-$ 7.00 Early Evening Credit
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Total: 42.5$/month (tax + regulatory fee)
I will answer the majority of questions for this thread and do my best to help you out with deals. Please note I am only experienced with ROGERS retentions and not other carriers retention reps.