Guys, these forums have been fueled and fired up lately over discussions about temperatures. A lot of information is out there, and it's difficult to really get a clear sense of what is going on. While searching on the subject of appropriate Tjunction temperatures for mobile CPUs from Intel, I came across this interesting guide. It has some old info in it, but I think a lot of it is still relevant; http://www.techreaction.net/2009/10/14/guide-to-understanding-intel-temperatures/ Some interesting tibits; I find it to be interesting stuff. The fact that a lot of companies still use the old values to measure temperatures also tell us why it's likely that manufacturers use these older parameters which is different from the temperature probe measurement variables used by programs like speedfan, true temps and istats. This does not prove anything, I just found it interesting though I also find some of it hard to understand. Technology is an amazing thing. It really is amazing!