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Bring on the eArc HomePod sound bar with built in Apple TV!
The 2021 Apple TV 4K no longer supports all features of TV OS, for example Apple Music Sing is apparently too much for it and only works with the 2022 model. That’s a year - a single year.
I don’t want that kind of obsolescence coming to a soundbar.

If they go down the soundbar route, it will need to be significantly overpowered to ensure some level of future proofing
 
'And the main way is that you control it, is with Siri!'

Whenever Apple uses this phrase in a product launch, it's an instant 'no' from me.

I can't think of any other Apple product/feature that has barely improved in the last 10 or so years.

(OK, Siri may have improved, but from 'unusable' to 'usable but mostly useless').
 
I understand your feeling, but it's not as simple as that. In any engineering project there are almost always compromises, and often those are driven by financial constraints. And these are real. Consider one case where Apple produced a "device without compromise:" the Twentieth Anniversary Macintosh in 1997. It was beautiful, performant -- and expensive ($7500 at the time, about $13,000 today). Not surprisingly, it didn't sell well, and was discontinued less than a year later.

Apple's challenge today is to strike a balance between profitability and engineering devices that minimize functional compromises. It clearly hasn't found that sweet spot yet for HomePods or a number of its other products (e.g. the latest Apple Watches are also still stuck on Wi-Fi 4). We can hope it eventually will, and encourage Apple's engineers and managers to keep on iterating, seeking the sweet.
I agree with all your well-made points. Whilst understanding that Apple needs to be pragmatic It interests me that they talk about visionary devices but are always careful to restrict them in some way. If we take the Mac Mini, it would be straightforward to give all models 4 TB ports but, no, the lower models must have 2. It’s the same with laptops - the offer is carefully managed to force users who don’t necessarily need the more expensive devices to have to spend more just to acquire something that should be standard or a minimally priced option. Best example lately? The height adjustable cost of the Apple Studio Display.
 
Turned of Siri everywhere, life is much much better without her.

If Apple ditch these Mini's?
Just bought 1, not very impressed, but I might buy another to get the stereo before they are gone anyway though.
If this Gurman boy have got it right, whose is doubtful?, I won’t suffer anyway ☺️
 
If Apple wants people to use a HomePod to control matter devices in the future it needs to have a proper screen that can display info like an Echo Show
 
Apple seriously needs to consider lowering the price of the HomePod Mini to $49.
Yep. You're right. They won't do it though.

....Which is pretty short sighted. If the HP mini was around £50 (or less on a deal) I would dump a whole house of Amazon Echo Dots, and carry on with my life. Currently, there is literally zero incentive to buy Apple speakers of any kind for me.
 
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Apple really needs to make these wireless with MagSafe charging.
That would be a fun product IMO - basically a Sonos Roam competitor. Could increase the MSRP of the “HomePod Go” to $150/$199, it comes with a magsafe puck and power brick. Has a few hours of battery and just “magically” works with iOS devices as a portable speaker and voice assistant.

On the original article topic - I’m hoping this means they are focused fully on software upgrades. HomePod’s are great as speakers, but severely lacking on smart features. Every request that is not “what is the weather” ends up with a “Look at your iPhone for search results” - If I wanted to look at my phone, I wouldn’t be asking a voice assistant. Also Apple TV control has definitely improved, but can still be pretty flakey for anything more than turn on/turn off.
 
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It’s as if Apple home strategy is to simply revive the HomePod to be Matter compatible and call it a day.
 
I find it’s great for all of the above but only when moved around to find the right spot. Voices do sound amazing everywhere.

My first impression was “how did this get any good reviews?” upon first setup in my wife’s office, to “Oh man that’s coming from this little thing?!”, the first time I plugged it in outside for a party.

In my experience when the sound is reflecting off of a piece of furniture or is placed too closely to a wall, it sounds a bit muddy and bass heavy. It sounds “boxed in” even though it isn’t. When it has a smidge more open space, it has clarity and range & still retains the bass but only when it’s needed.

I thought it was supposed to figure that sort of thing out on its own, but it doesn’t seem to be very good at that.
This is one reason it should be wireless. We could have it on the coffee table instead of on an end table chained to an outlet.
 
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Why do you feel like Siri sucks? Provide some examples. It can do damn near everything outside of great follow up question response. Heck, it can even reboot your iPhone.
She stopped recognizing our AM sub even after reboots. Then she said we had no accessories, even though they were in the Home App and worked fine there. The Google Minis we replaced the HMs with work better with AM than an Apple Product
 
If Apple wants people to use a HomePod to control matter devices in the future it needs to have a proper screen that can display info like an Echo Show
You make request to control matter devices to the Homepod but you can still use your phone/iPad to do the same. The Matter/HomeKit hub in the HomePod just handles the inter-device communications. It doesn’t need to provide feedback. Requests can go from your phone to the HomePod to your matter devices.
 
Yep. You're right. They won't do it though.

....Which is pretty short sighted. If the HP mini was around £50 (or less on a deal) I would dump a whole house of Amazon Echo Dots, and carry on with my life. Currently, there is literally zero incentive to buy Apple speakers of any kind for me.
Amazon has lost billions of dollars on Alexa and those Echo dots. They sold them at less than cost hoping that people would use them to buy things. It turns out, people don’t like to use a virtual assistant to make purchases.

I don’t think Apple wants to price their HP Minis at below cost. The HP Minis have better, more expensive components and sound better than the dots. They aren’t going to be as cheap as those throwaway Amazon devices.
 
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Between this news and the downright lazy “update” to its big brother, I feel like it may be the second option
I mean, the second generation HomePod has entirely redesigned internals. Did you want a laser light show?
 
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That would be a fun product IMO - basically a Sonos Roam competitor. Could increase the MSRP of the “HomePod Go” to $150/$199, it comes with a magsafe puck and power brick. Has a few hours of battery and just “magically” works with iOS devices as a portable speaker and voice assistant.

On the original article topic - I’m hoping this means they are focused fully on software upgrades. HomePod’s are great as speakers, but severely lacking on smart features. Every request that is not “what is the weather” ends up with a “Look at your iPhone for search results” - If I wanted to look at my phone, I wouldn’t be asking a voice assistant. Also Apple TV control has definitely improved, but can still be pretty flakey for anything more than turn on/turn off.

Right? They could market and increase the rechargeable battery life every few years.
 
And the full size HomePod has nothing on the Sonos Arc with sub or a proper Atmos home theater or a Sonos 5, for that matter. The mini is a great speaker for its size. How is this hard to understand?
You're missing the point. Apple introduced the OG HomePod as a multi room audio smart speaker solution. It had amazing sound quality. Many started to invest with the confidence that over time they could expand to additional rooms. Apple then unceremoniously discontinues the OG and state that their focus is now the Mini. The Mini as an alternative is quite frankly pathetic, and I for one am glad the OG is back.
The Mini is nothing but Apple's answer to the Echo Dot. All of this hyperbole about the Mini offering room-filling sound is a nonsense.
Sonos Roam for example wipes the floor with the Mini.

For its size yeah sure it's not a bad speaker - but as (it was positioned as) an OG replacement, it was woefully inadequate. How hard is that to understand?
 
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You're missing the point. Apple introduced the OG HomePod as a multi room audio smart speaker solution. It had amazing sound quality. Many started to invest with the confidence that over time they could expand to additional rooms. Apple then unceremoniously discontinues the OG and state that their focus is now the Mini. The Mini as an alternative is quite frankly pathetic, and I for one am glad the OG is back.
The Mini is nothing but Apple's answer to the Echo Dot. All of this hyperbole about the Mini offering room-filling sound is a nonsense.
Sonos Roam for example wipes the floor with the Mini.

For its size yeah sure it's not a bad speaker - but as (it was positioned as) an OG replacement, it was woefully inadequate. How hard is that to understand?

QuarterSwede said:
And the full size HomePod has nothing on the Sonos Arc with sub or a proper Atmos home theater or a Sonos 5, for that matter. The mini is a great speaker for its size. How is this hard to understand?

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It sounds like you are both agreeing with each other.
 
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