Guy who hacked the iPhone: Sellout?

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by Diviant, Aug 24, 2007.

  1. Diviant macrumors newbie

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    The guy who's now all over the news for hacking the iPhone seems like a pretty big sellout to me, and not very hacker-like at all. True hackers do what they do for themselves and the user-base, not to get all over the news and make a quick buck. This kid is flaunting his "1337 hacking abilities" all over the news, and it's obvious he was not the only contributor to this project. I'll be dollars to donuts that he contributed only a small part to the development of the hack, and is taking all the credit.

    I'm very disappointed.
     
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  3. 7on macrumors 601

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    one character
     
  4. D1G1T4L macrumors 68000

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    Who is he selling out too? Does it matter? The videos I've seen he has thanked everyone on the team. They do need someone to speak on their behalf.
     
  5. Canuck4 macrumors 6502a

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    Usually hackers stay away from the spotlight of the media, this guy seems like an attention seeker....
     
  6. D1G1T4L macrumors 68000

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    :D

    I love how we stereotype hackers as someone who doesn't want attention.
     
  7. Canuck4 macrumors 6502a

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    In most cases, you dont see the dude that hacked windows vista and such on the news usually :D
     
  8. D1G1T4L macrumors 68000

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    They aren't the first..........yet oddly we all know who Kevin Mitnick is. Yes not the first but first to be heavily chased.

    Putting a hack out for vista or XP is nothing. Now the OS X wifi hack we did hear alot about didn't we :D

    What about the misdirect flaw on the iPhone. Yup heard about that also.

    The first is usually pretty proud.
     
  9. Canuck4 macrumors 6502a

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    True, but do we hear just about the hack or the hackers name and face on TV?
    And wouldnt they be liable for lawsuits by big companys if they alter/hack their products to be used illegally?
    I wouldnt want to risk it :D
     
  10. D1G1T4L macrumors 68000

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    What law is being broken?
     
  11. wako macrumors 65816

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    I dont think this guy is selling out at all. The guy (or actually team) DEVELOPED a software and they are now wanting to sell it. What is the difference between them and Apple not wanting to give out iWork or OSX out for free? Nothing.

    Just because the guy (or team) made a hacking tool doesnt mean it has to be free. Sellout? No, a guy trying to make a living or trying to make a buck? yeah....


    And what law is being broken here? DMCA probably...
     
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    I did not see the coverage where he appears to be taking all the credit as some of you have suggested, but I have seen video where he gave credit to the members of the team. Why should we hate on him for selling the one iPhone? Surely that's fair enough. Perhaps he even plans to share the proceeds amongs his partners.
     
  13. Canuck4 macrumors 6502a

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    I dont know, Im sure big companys like Apple, Microsoft etc.. could go after individuals hacking their products? No?
    Cause in the end its costing them money.

     
  14. D1G1T4L macrumors 68000

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    Would go after them how? Have them arrested? What for?
     
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    Nope - the ability to unlock cellphones is specifically protected under the current terms of the DMCA.

    Hey, the guy put in a lot of work, and developed a product that's useful to people. Why shouldn't he get paid?
     
  17. D1G1T4L macrumors 68000

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    What would be the grounds?
     
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    I thought hackers were routinely hired by software and security companies for big money.
     
  20. /dev/toaster macrumors 68020

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    I am going to laugh my ass off at him when his house is raided next week and hes arrested for DMCA violations.

    He is so asking for it ...
     
  21. jecapaga macrumors 601

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    No, those would be lawyers. ;)
     
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    Doesnt seem like it now since AT&T is threatening to take legal action for "copyright infringement and illegal software dissemination."
     
  23. StealthRider macrumors 65816

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    Well then they're going to get smacked down, as they should.

    http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20061124-8280.html
     
  24. zap2 macrumors 604

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    Well yes, but AT&T/Apple might be able to get around it.

    DMCA protects ones right to unlock his/her "for the sole purpose of lawfully connecting to a wireless telephone communication network"

    But this guys sole purpose isn't to connect to a cell phone network. Its also to make $$

    (read more about that issue here http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/24/know-your-rights-is-it-illegal-to-unlock-my-iphone/)
     
  25. StealthRider macrumors 65816

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    On the other hand, he hasn't started selling it yet - they don't have any reason to sue until Monday :p
     

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