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No, apple has never actively patched a jailbreak exploit (released a patch just for the jailbreak). the next version of the iOS update sometimes closed it, other times it did not.

Are you trying to put out a riddle to confuse the readers? Fixing the flaw that made the jailbreaking possible, is actively patching it. Why do you think Apple would want to enable jailbreaks?
 
That all sounds awful until you realize that you need an infected computer to make it happen

The company also sells various tools and services to remotely infect computers. Including being on the same WIFI network, installing network appliances at the computers ISP to infect things etc.
 
Are you trying to put out a riddle to confuse the readers? Fixing the flaw that made the jailbreaking possible, is actively patching it. Why do you think Apple would want to enable jailbreaks?

Have you ever seen Apple release a patch after a jailbreak exploit has been found? The only thing in that patch is removal of the exploit?

I have not! "When" Apple has closed down a jailbreak exploit, its has been part of a iOS update, which in some situations took months!

Well you tell me, if Apple is so concerned about jailbreak exploits, how come every iOS version has been jailbroken?

You are spreading incorrect info saying that Apple has patched these jailbreaks as soon as they occurred. I guess you never jailbroke your device... i used to do it all the time. Some iOS updates did not close the jailbreak, I know... I had a jailbroken device.
 
So.... you're only actually vulnerable if you happen to have a Jailbroken iPhone and a computer that is also infected with their malware.

Pretty unlikely scenario?
no. it says they can jailbroke you by using the enterprise certificate so it can affect anybody
 
Have you ever seen Apple release a patch after a jailbreak exploit has been found? The only thing in that patch is removal of the exploit?

Are you seriously trying to make a distinction between if a patch is issued on it's own, or is part of a combi update for the OS, as is almost always the case with Apple? What kind of difference does it make to the argument at hand?
 
Funny how everybody focused on "can I get infected" and "should I Jailbreak" instead of the real story which was a confirmation that governments are actively working with these companies to spy on citizens. Maybe this is a poor way to get access to intel, but if a government is willing to try to get data from hacked iPhones, you can bet that they are using more effective means to spy on us. I'm not a tin foil hat guy. But the exposure of the Hacking Team's records shows just how much governments are still abusing the rights of innocent citizens under the guise of national security.
 
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Are you seriously trying to make a distinction between if a patch is issued on it's own, or is part of a combi update for the OS, as is almost always the case with Apple? What kind of difference does it make to the argument at hand?

Maybe the severity of the vulnerability? And its a huge issue when it comes to security.

If something can wait till all the other functionality is tested in a ios update, its not severe.

Look this is a waste of time and off topic, your initial point was that apple has always patched these jailbreaks, this is incorrect. Do your research.
 
Maybe the severity of the vulnerability? And its a huge issue when it comes to security.

If something can wait till all the other functionality is tested in a ios update, its not severe.

Look this is a waste of time and off topic, your initial point was that apple has always patched these jailbreaks, this is incorrect. Do your research.

Yes, and I bet the more severe ones gets patched faster. Apple have waited with patches to include them in OS updates even when it's not related to jailbreak so that doesn't really tell us anything.

And your initial point was that Apple never patches these jailbreaks, this is incorrect. Do your research.
 
Yes, and I bet the more severe ones gets patched faster. Apple have waited with patches to include them in OS updates even when it's not related to jailbreak so that doesn't really tell us anything.

And your initial point was that Apple never patches these jailbreaks, this is incorrect. Do your research.

Wrong. This was my quote, you are being dishonest now.

"No, apple has never actively patched a jailbreak exploit (released a patch just for the jailbreak). the next version of the iOS update sometimes closed it, other times it did not."

there is no debate now, its just bickering. Feel free to reply, I will not as we are wasting peoples time.
 
Funny how everybody focused on "can I get infected" and "should I Jailbreak" instead of the real story which was a confirmation that governments are actively working with these companies to spy on citizens. Maybe this is a poor way to get access to intel, but if a government is willing to try to get data from hacked iPhones, you can bet that they are using more effective means to spy on us. I'm not a tin foil hat guy. But the exposure of the Hacking Team's records shows just how much governments are still abusing the rights of innocent citizens under the guise of national security.

It's not news if you've paid attention to the continual output of the Snowden leak, and it isn't news that there are private companies that sell exploits to the highest bidder. This company sold a working tool explicitly to governments and law enforcement, this wasn't a secret before this leak and is one reason why these guys have been controversial. The leak provide some interesting details, like who their customers were, which included known dictatorships, and states on the UN sanction list.
 
Wrong. This was my quote, you are being dishonest now.

"No, apple has never actively patched a jailbreak exploit (released a patch just for the jailbreak). the next version of the iOS update sometimes closed it, other times it did not."

YOU are being dishonest, first of all, this wasn't your first comment, and here you make a useless distinction between if the patch is released on it's own or included in a OS update. I told you this, but you drag this on.
 
Immature hackers with a unhealthy level of grandeur and flawed allegiances could ultimately be the downfall of an otherwise dedicated jailbreak community.[/QUOTE]

What does it say about the US government using these guys as contractors :eek:
 
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Funny how everybody focused on "can I get infected" and "should I Jailbreak" instead of the real story which was a confirmation that governments are actively working with these companies to spy on citizens. Maybe this is a poor way to get access to intel, but if a government is willing to try to get data from hacked iPhones, you can bet that they are using more effective means to spy on us. I'm not a tin foil hat guy. But the exposure of the Hacking Team's records shows just how much governments are still abusing the rights of innocent citizens under the guise of national security.


Lets be clear here. While SOME of the States that have done business with HT are more than likely using these tools for illegal (that varies from Country to Country) activity against it's citizens this does not prove that it is happening in all the Countries that have done biz with HT. Their tools can be used for perfectly legal investigations as well.
 
Immature hackers with a unhealthy level of grandeur and flawed allegiances could ultimately be the downfall of an otherwise dedicated jailbreak community.

What does it say about the US government using these guys as contractors :eek:[/QUOTE]


I'd say it says they had some tools that functioned well enough to be worth the money.
 
So.... you're only actually vulnerable if you happen to have a Jailbroken iPhone and a computer that is also infected with their malware.

Pretty unlikely scenario?

This is not some far fetched scenario.

People seemingly want to convince themselves that even though jail breaking their iPhone comes at a security cost, it won't happen to them.

Obviously no computers ever get infected so there is no Venn diagram overlap between jail broken iPhone users and people who have compromised pcs.
 
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