Had to downgrade

[stooovie]

I had way too many beachballs, little pauses and hiccups. I use my computer to actually do stuff instead of staring at smoothness of scrolling in Safari. I had Adobe Qtkit hanging, FCPX beach balling and crashing, audio apps freezing... After Effects CC doesn't run on 10.9 at all. I had none of these issues on 10.8.5.

I know this may be just related to an insulated issue on my machine, but since upgrading is the official supported way to install Mavs, it didn't work out for me. And I tend to run pretty clean machine. Please don't tell me to repair permissions and stuff, I actually write printed books about ios and osx for a major publisher and know my way around Apple stuff.

This is just a little reminder for anyone who would like to upgrade on production machine. Don't yet.

 

[Daniel L]

How'd you downgrade?

 

[Bear]

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This is just a little reminder for anyone who would like to upgrade on production machine. Don't yet.

Good advice for a lot of people. Not everyone is running the same software and hardware setup so experiences in upgrading will differ.

Look at the iPhoto and Aperture issues due to the Aperture update not being available yet.

What if you use a piece of hardware where the device driver isn't quite ready for Mavericks yet?

I don't run that many pieces of software, but I will check what has Mavericks updates and such before I upgrade to Mavericks.

 

[N19h7m4r3]

App Nap, and that CPU Timer Coalescing might be the main culprits.

I turned off App Nap for FCP X which would kill the GPU rendering if you left it to do its job, and Timer Coalescing would constantly cause issues with freezing, beach balling and cpu drops to 0% usage.


Apple need to sort this stuff out, as each time an error happened I'd get a black screen on my rendered work in FCP X, and Screenflow. It's extremely annoying.


Apple's defence would most likely be that FCPX is getting a new version, and that other Devs need to update their apps. All which is true, but not good either.

It seems most of the features in Mavericks is aimed at their MacBook market, which is cool and all, but it's not great for their Workstations.

 

[josh.b]

I didn't realise professionals upgraded straight away because of these teething issues. Always stick to the stable OS mate. Wait for .2 update before considering mavericks

 

[N19h7m4r3]

I didn't realise professionals upgraded straight away because of these teething issues. Always stick to the stable OS mate. Wait for .2 update before considering mavericks

yah! It's the reason I still have my HDD with 10.8.5 on it, I just boot to that when I have issues.

 

[josh.b]

yah! It's the reason I still have my HDD with 10.8.5 on it, I just boot to that when I have issues.

Also the fact of waiting for 3rd parties to catch up. Adobe are kind of slack they have had the dev for months and AE doesn't even open yet. They better hurry since they said AE12.1 "it will be released before mavericks".

 

[N19h7m4r3]

That's true, Telestream haven't even announced support for mavericks with any of their software, and I think Apple's cop-out is saying wait for the new FCPX.

Apple did ask debs to start updating their applications though, and so far very few have.

The only software updates I've really gotten was from Pixelmator, and Apple so far. I'm hoping 10.9 gets a lot of updates shortly after 10.9 launches.

The openGL update to 4.1 is amazing and I'd rather not have to sit around with 10.8.5 for too long.

 

[josh.b]

That's true, Telestream haven't even announced support for mavericks with any of their software, and I think Apple's cop-out is saying wait for the new FCPX.

Apple did ask debs to start updating their applications though, and so far very few have.

The only software updates I've really gotten was from Pixelmator, and Apple so far. I'm hoping 10.9 gets a lot of updates shortly after 10.9 launches.

The openGL update to 4.1 is amazing and I'd rather not have to sit around with 10.8.5 for too long.

yep, I agree. The performance gains in Mavericks are too good to ignore for too long. Hope once it hits publicly, the slower developers get the acts together.

 

[stooovie]

How'd you downgrade?

I did a clean reinstall. Had some cruft anyways.

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I didn't realise professionals upgraded straight away because of these teething issues. Always stick to the stable OS mate. Wait for .2 update before considering mavericks

Yep, I made a mistake

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App Nap, and that CPU Timer Coalescing might be the main culprits.

I turned off App Nap for FCP X which would kill the GPU rendering if you left it to do its job, and Timer Coalescing would constantly cause issues with freezing, beach balling and cpu drops to 0% usage

Yep, I did turn it off for my content creation apps but it didn't help.

 

[N19h7m4r3]

Yep, I did turn it off for my content creation apps but it didn't help.

Is it possible to turn of timer coalescence as well?

 

[Manic Harmonic]

Yeah, I made the same mistake with ml when it was released... I've upgraded my notebooks but my desktop will be staying on 10.8.5 for awhile... Ironic considering that it's going to benefit the most from the multi monitor support.

 

[josh.b]

Yep, I made a mistake

Haha, easy one to make when it comes to performance boosts and/or new features

I have mavericks on my home machine and I actually still do professional work on it but the main one is at my work office so that is still ML. Anyway at least your list of frustrations is fairly short and manageable. You should be able to upgrade again soon after release.

My only annoyance is After Effects CC in Mavericks and also holding down shift ctrl volume up/down isn't silent changes to the volume level now (not sure if bug or)

 

[ssls6]

Yeah, I made the same mistake with ml when it was released... I've upgraded my notebooks but my desktop will be staying on 10.8.5 for awhile... Ironic considering that it's going to benefit the most from the multi monitor support.

I'm doing the same. My Mac Pro is very stable now with 10.8.5, my MBA will go Mavericks.

 

[stooovie]

Had to downgrade

I'm doing the same. My Mac Pro is very stable now with 10.8.5, my MBA will go Mavericks.

Yeah. This is exactly what I would do now with those two machines. I think Mavs is amazing for office/normal use. Especially on laptops. For production use, not yet.

 

[James_C]

Plus er Mavericks is not even released yet. Only crazy people put development software on production machines . Yes I know current development release is meant to be GM, but until it's officially released it will take a while for all 3rd Parties to update their software to support it.