Because I do own one, and I wouldn't be so cruel as to dump it off on someone else - then you'd be whining about them when they reported their problems just as I do.
Who said anything about using it?
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Because I do own one, and I wouldn't be so cruel as to dump it off on someone else - then you'd be whining about them when they reported their problems just as I do.
Who said anything about using it?
Because I do own one, and I wouldn't be so cruel as to dump it off on someone else - then you'd be whining about them when they reported their problems just as I do.
Who said anything about using it?
Uhm okay, if the iPhone 4 was really so much of a problem you would return it. At which point you would leave these forums and go back to htc no battery life central.
P.S. did you get the hint?
But it's the best cell phone ever made, according to you. What reason would I have to return it? See how insane your potential argument becomes? Somehow, I don't think you can...
br0adband said:Because I do own one, and I wouldn't be so cruel as to dump it off on someone else - then you'd be whining about them when they reported their problems just as I do.
Who said anything about using it?
That wasn't exactly a whine. It was an enough already. You hate it. It sucks. We know. We get it.
And if you aren't using it, then your constant complaining is even worse.
Exactly, the iPhone is the best cell phone ever made, thank you for finally agreeing with me
Ryeno said:
If he returned it, he wouldn't have anything to bitch about. Or have anything cool to show his friend(s).
Look! I'm standing under a tower and death gripping it!!!! And there are NO BARS!! Damn you Apple!
You see, this way of thinking is why Apple dominated the mp3 market and why they are destroying pretty much anyone in the smartphone-making business now.
It was never ever about "speeds" or "specs". A 4G smartphone coupled with garbage software negates any speed gains. A ferrari that is hard to drive negates the fact that it is one of the fastest. Apple just released their latest iPhone, yet it still comes with a 5MP camera.
It is all about the how not the what.
And yes, the iPhone (the hardware+software combo) is years ahead of pretty much anything else out there right now. The iPhone certainly has it faults, and doesn't do everything. But those it does, it does very very well. When you look at the iPhone, you have to look at it as a package. How do you sync it to your computer? How do you buy your software? When I have a problem who do I call? etc etc etc. There are countless and countless variables to the successful phone formula. Which is why it is very very difficult for other companies to compete with Apple.
Google got the "sexy design" right with the Nexus One, but failed miserably trying to provide support when a customer has a problem. The screen was great (at the time), yet they placed four hardware buttons. On a MULTITOUCH SCREEN. They got the "open platform" right, yet customers have to get a customized locked-down version from their carrier. And let's not even talk about the developer tools. Comparing Android dev tools to that of the iPhone is like comparing coal-operated machinery from the 1800s to future alien technology.
You're right. How come we don't hear more from Christopher Carey instead of Gene Munster?
I love the part about having two batteries.
You're really going to have start ignoring him. He takes every opportunity to throw his crap into every thread (and this one definitely had nothing to do with what he posted).
He's already said he's returning the iPhone even if it gets fixed.
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/10379494/
Nothing against you br0adband, since when you first started posting about this you were giving good information about the issue (which I believe people do have, but maybe not as prevalent as the media says), but now you just seem to be on a vendetta. So, because of the above, I question your motives. That's all.
You're really going to have start ignoring him. He takes every opportunity to throw his crap into every thread (and this one definitely had nothing to do with what he posted).
He's already said he's returning the iPhone even if it gets fixed.
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/10379494/
Nothing against you br0adband, since when you first started posting about this you were giving good information about the issue (which I believe people do have, but maybe not as prevalent as the media says), but now you just seem to be on a vendetta. So, because of the above, I question your motives. That's all.
Unless you can find me an alien cell phone lightyears ahead of the iPhone... then no, the iPhone is the best cell phone in the history of cell phones
That's a very subjective statement and one that cannot be proven. Though I must say, I do love my iPhone.
Lol this iPhone was supposed to be a zune killer. From what I remember the zune was dead when it came out.
I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic and poking fun at the antenna hyperbole in the main stream media or if you're serious (or maybe you're a non-owner who buys the aforementioned hyperbole). I'll respond nonetheless.
I have two iPhone 4s in my family. I own a launch-day 32GB, and my wife owns a June 29th 16GB. We were both able to duplicate the "grip of death" bar-dropping phenomenon. HOWEVER, neither of us have EVER dropped a call during normal call usage, nor have we experienced slowdowns in browsing or other data usage. We're not in a great coverage area either.
Admittedly, I often see Apple's glass as half-full. However, I wouldn't go so far as to call myself a fanboy (I have been known to bitch about various shortcomings). In all honesty, however, I have zero issues with this phone.
I assure you, my wife IS NOT an Apple apologist. She hates spending money on gadgets. If there were ANY noticeable glitches in her phone, she'd be sending me back to the store in a heartbeat. She is a heavy iPhone user too, as she is a district manager for a pharmaceutical company with 15 reps and countless superiors. Call quality and reliability is a big deal to her.
So, based on my experiences, I tend to doubt the complainers.
Which is fine, in your experience, but I'll repeat the question I've asked in the past:
Is it more likely that Apple created, produced, and shipped 100% perfect flawless phones or is it more likely that they made a mistake someplace, regardless of what that mistake is, that's causing the most prevalent issues being reported, or a whole bunch of smaller issues that are cropping up as time goes by?
That's it, in a nutshell. It's either perfect as they'd have everyone believe, or something is seriously wrong someplace.
The press release from Friday morning? Apple's attempt at damage control - an implied admission that "Yep, something is seriously wrong someplace, but since we can't and won't admit the iPhone 4 is anything but perfect, we'll lay the blame on some ridiculous 'issue' that's a problem with every iPhone ever made so that takes some of the heat off the iPhone 4."
Apple wouldn't need damage control of any kind unless something is truly seriously wrong.
No offense, but I would think anyone that can look at all this objectively - whether you own an iPhone 4 or not - should easily be capable of smelling the crap that Apple is attempting to shovel down our throats.
Watch this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znxQOPFg2mo
Note that during the demo the iPhone 3GS - in the same interference overload situation - performed without one single issue, it was for all intents and purposes "perfect" and worked as designed and expected.
The iPhone 4 fails every single time in this video - this is footage Apple doesn't want people to see, hence it was cut out of the "official" WWDC iPhone 4 keynote introduction. 3 different sets of phones, 1 set was all iPhone 3GS, one set was all iPhone 4 - the 3GS never failed, the iPhone 4 did every single time.
If you can't see what's happening in that video, well...
Which is fine, in your experience, but I'll repeat the question I've asked in the past:
Is it more likely that Apple created, produced, and shipped 100% perfect flawless phones or is it more likely that they made a mistake someplace, regardless of what that mistake is, that's causing the most prevalent issues being reported, or a whole bunch of smaller issues that are cropping up as time goes by?
That's it, in a nutshell. It's either perfect as they'd have everyone believe, or something is seriously wrong someplace.
The press release from Friday morning? Apple's attempt at damage control - an implied admission that "Yep, something is seriously wrong someplace, but since we can't and won't admit the iPhone 4 is anything but perfect, we'll lay the blame on some ridiculous 'issue' that's a problem with every iPhone ever made so that takes some of the heat off the iPhone 4."
Apple wouldn't need damage control of any kind unless something is truly seriously wrong.
No offense, but I would think anyone that can look at all this objectively - whether you own an iPhone 4 or not - should easily be capable of smelling the crap that Apple is attempting to shovel down our throats.
Watch this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znxQOPFg2mo
Note that during the demo the iPhone 3GS - in the same interference overload situation - performed without one single issue, it was for all intents and purposes "perfect" and worked as designed and expected.
The iPhone 4 fails every single time in this video - this is footage Apple doesn't want people to see, hence it was cut out of the "official" WWDC iPhone 4 keynote introduction. 3 different sets of phones, 1 set was all iPhone 3GS, one set was all iPhone 4 - the 3GS never failed, the iPhone 4 did every single time.
If you can't see what's happening in that video, well...
I really don't doubt that there are problems with the phone. Problems that some are experiencing and some are not. I, myself, haven't had one issue with my phone. I know 2 other people that have the phone also and they haven't had the issue either.
It's just been beaten to death, especially by someone who claims they don't even use it.
Has Apple handled it the right way? Probably not. In many cases where there is a problem, the complainers are normally the loudest. So it's hard to tell, especially on this forum, the realistic scope of this problem.
People and companies have to do damage control all of the time, whether they are in the wrong or not. That's one benefit of the society that we live in. Bad press isn't always deserved, but it normally has to be dealt with. I'm not saying that's the situation here, but it's a fact.
Stupid Razr phone. I remember this phone cost like $599 when it came out with contract.
I really liked the dual battery idea. that way you could still make calls even if you ran the main battery down. Akin to petcock reserve on motorcycles.
"The Kool-Aid runs deep in this one..."
Sorry, but you're saying that a phone that's got 4G capability (and everything else available) and superior speeds because of it (EVO) is inferior to a phone that's limited drastically by 3G capability max (iPhone 4, when it works)?
Since when does a technically superior product (EVO + 4G) suddenly become inferior out of the box just because someone likes another product (iPhone 4 + 3G)? See what I mean about "best" - because more people would say having 4G capability is definitely a superior aspect on a cell phone than being limited to 3G max.
It's impossible to have a "best cell phone" - it IS possible, however, to have a "best cell phone for me" which is where you and most others always screw things up when making your claims which are based on purely personal opinions alone.
Do you even bother to think at all or consider what you're about to say before you actually post something? Ever?
And I have this iPhone 4 because it was a gift... I would never have actually paid for such a thing.
I'm not going to get to much into your trolling, but I just wanted to point out that Sprint's 4G is a joke. It barely will ever work indoors and if you leave the 4g radio on then it will constantly be looking for 4g towers and really drain your battery. Sprint's 4G is just a gimmick so people can say "WOW 4G's!!!!!!" If you happen to sit on a park bench all day that is in one of the select few good reception areas, then sure 4g is a little nicer then AT&T's 3g. However, if you are out and about all day, you will most likely have problems with battery life on the Evo. So let me correct that, if you sit on a park bench that has an outlet on it in an area with excellent 4g coverage, then yes, the Evo's 4g is an advantage over the iPhone.
I found this bit particularly hilarious in its certainty:
"As customers start to realise that the competition offers better functionality at a lower price, by negotiating a better subsidy, sales will stagnate. After a year a new version will be launched, but it will lack the innovation of the first and quickly vanish.
The only question remaining is if, when the iPod phone fails, it will take the iPod with it."
is doomed!
"As customers start to realise that the competition offers better functionality at a lower price, by negotiating a better subsidy, sales will stagnate. After a year a new version will be launched, but it will lack the innovation of the first and quickly vanish.
The only question remaining is if, when the iPod phone fails, it will take the iPod with it."
is doomed!
Lucky for me that I live in Las Vegas, the first city in the US to go live with complete blanketed 4G coverage everywhere then, eh? I know 4 people that own EVOs and they're insanely fast, and none of those 4 persons has made any negative comments yet about the battery life that I've noted. They're all "happy" with their choice of the EVO as far as I can tell.
Was considering one myself at one point but decided to wait and see what happens with this iPhone 4 when it was offered to me; so far it hasn't been a fun ride but we'll see what happens.
You might want to look up what trolling means, to be honest, and stop accusing people of such activity just because we offer dissenting or differing opinions. I've never said the iPhone 4 is a bad product, nor a nice one, but it ain't the best for everyone - that's the rub, because no such thing can exist. It can be best for you, or perhaps someone else, and in some instances a phone might even be best for me (never found such a thing yet, however) but no cell phone (or any device really) can be best for every single person on the planet.
We're all too different for such a thing to be possible.
Back to the OT, I like this one:
>>Almost as likely is the PlayStation phone, which was also fuelled by Sakaguchi, who claimed that the company is working on something (related to the PlayStation phone), but that the surprise must be kept for the future.
The current rumours speculate that the PSP phone will be more than just a gaming phone, and will incorporate wireless game transfer functionality. Expect WiFi support on this one when it arrives (though it may not come with the Playstation or PSP branding).<<
I guess the future hasn't arrived yet! The second part sounds like some of the Go functionality, but still no phone in that bad (as in, it's just bad) boy.
>>Almost as likely is the PlayStation phone, which was also fuelled by Sakaguchi, who claimed that the company is working on something (related to the PlayStation phone), but that the surprise must be kept for the future.
The current rumours speculate that the PSP phone will be more than just a gaming phone, and will incorporate wireless game transfer functionality. Expect WiFi support on this one when it arrives (though it may not come with the Playstation or PSP branding).<<
I guess the future hasn't arrived yet! The second part sounds like some of the Go functionality, but still no phone in that bad (as in, it's just bad) boy.
"iTalk"? Huh?
Proof that any one can call themselves an expert and dust off their crystal ball and be dead wrong...
Are these prognosticators working at Wal*Mart now or Fox News?
That picture from the french magazine is hysterical...
Proof that any one can call themselves an expert and dust off their crystal ball and be dead wrong...
Are these prognosticators working at Wal*Mart now or Fox News?
That picture from the french magazine is hysterical...