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I tried out some light trails handheld this evening. Not great results. Some of the trails are good (see my results below) but the stationary lights blur with any movement at all. I’m thinking some tweaks to the algorithms that determine what’s moving and what’s standing still might fix this.

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halide: own tests, experiences from others, pictures i notice etc. and the hype i notice.

spectre: poor results i see.

Maybe because there are tons of other free apps that do the same things as Halide. For example Lightroom. It has RAW and HDR RAW (in most cases better than Smart HDR and Halide's Smart RAW). Also has the rest of the control you can use over your camera and is a great editing app too.

I guess you're both just doing it wrong then, because I'd argue that I've used the majority of the free and paid RAW/Manual camera apps and Halide's quality is the best of the bunch. Lightroom wasn't bad, but it's definitely not something that could be used as a replacement for the stock camera app given how slow it is to launch, and then you have to hit the camera button. The camera doesn't save your settings between launches (like grid and level). As for your claim of HDR RAW, when you turn on High Dynamic Range, the DNG (RAW) option becomes grayed out. That to me says it's shooting jpegs.

Literally the only reason I still have it installed is to denoise. It would be great if the Halide devs wrote a one-touch denoise app. HINT HINT.
 
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As for your claim of HDR RAW, when you turn on High Dynamic Range, the DNG (RAW) option becomes grayed out. That to me says it's shooting jpegs.

It does not. It shoots DNG and then combines them. The HDR photos end with ".dng".
 
It does not. It shoots DNG and then combines them. The HDR photos end with ".dng".

Under normal (auto) shooting, the DNG logo is bright white and you can toggle between DNG (which defaults to on, and is bright white) and jpg (which defaults to off, and is gray). When you switch to HDR, the DNG logo is grayed out.
 
Under normal (auto) shooting, the DNG logo is bright white and you can toggle between DNG (which defaults to on, and is bright white) and jpg (which defaults to off, and is gray). When you switch to HDR, the DNG logo is grayed out.
The reason is that you're shooting in a different mode than DNG, but still with DNG pictures. It's like saying RAW and HDR are the same thing. But anyway, if you think it shoots with JPG, so be it. Only you can try it yourselves and see that it consist of several DNG pictures.
 
The reason is that you're shooting in a different mode than DNG, but still with DNG pictures. It's like saying RAW and HDR are the same thing. But anyway, if you think it shoots with JPG, so be it. Only you can try it yourselves and see that it consist of several DNG pictures.

I'm just saying that by going by their own GUI, it would suggest that DNG is unavailable when shooting HDR.
 
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