Handbrake, Blueray support?

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    Tech198 macrumors G4

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    I am trying to use Handbrake with Blueray discs, but whatever i do HB cannot read retail discs with third party..

    Just like with libdvdcss u use in /lib folder for DVD protection, i gathered the same scenario would be true for Blue-ray, so after grabbing AACS dylib and .cfg in /Preferences, i fired up Handbrake, I didn't get the "scan anyway" which is a good sign, but then it failed . Looking at Activity Window i saw it couldn't even fine the dylib aacs library, Perhaps in wrong location ?

    The dylib file was dated this year and cfg last year,, and i was using Insidiious which is older that that, so its defiantly not issue there. Was i supposed to put the dylib in local folder not lib ?

    For now, i'm using MakeMKV, which probably means disabling SIP to put in /local folder and the rest is not eve required, but if I could get HB to work with Blueray, i'd rather use that, since although MakeMKV only outputs to .mkv format, i still need HB to do .m4v anyway for Apple TV. Therefore, i'd rather only do covert/transcode once, than twice, if u know what i mean.

    I've seen putting these files in correct location would allow VLC to play Blue-ray titles.... so i figured, well since the same instance allows HB to rip protected DVD's it would also be the same for Blue ray as well..

    No ?
     
  2. bluespark macrumors 65816

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    As you've discovered, Handbrake doesn't extract video from Blue-Ray discs. You would use something like MakeMKV to create the .mkv file and then Handbrake or something else to convert it to .m4v. If you don't want to take both of those steps, then consider using Plex, which will catalog and stream your .mkv files without any further conversion needed.
     
  3. Starfia macrumors 6502

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    Yep – I occasionally rent HD movies from iTunes, which works great for one-offs. But if I really care about a movie or a series, I own it on Blu-ray, rip it with MakeMKV, and convert it to a space-efficient format with something else (Handbrake is one good choice). Since Apple made a time-affirmed decision to ignore Blu-ray, it's one of the only workflows I've ever had on a Mac that was spiritually non-Apple.
     
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    MakeMKV does seem to work the best - despite the name it can also make full backups of the .m2ts files in case you need them.

    But not without an infamous press release in 2005 about being committed to the format!
     
  5. T'hain Esh Kelch macrumors 601

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    Not entirely. macOS reads and can write to Blu-rays just fine. It is just DVD Player that hasn't been updated.
     
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    Until you try to put >25 GB on a 50 GB disc and it gets halfway then fails. This seems to be a common issue; I had to try three or four different third-party apps until I found one that worked!
     
  7. browder macrumors newbie

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    To rip a blu-ray direct from Handbrake you will still need MakeMKV installed. In terminal run the following:

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    cd ~
    
    mkdir -p ~/lib
    
    chflags hidden ~/lib
    
    ln -s /Applications/MakeMKV.app/Contents/lib/libmmbd.dylib ~/lib/libaacs.dylib
    
    ln -s /Applications/MakeMKV.app/Contents/lib/libmmbd.dylib ~/lib/libbdplus.dylib
    
    Handbrake will then use the linked libraries from MakeMKV to read a blu-ray. You don't need to disable SIP for this to work.
     
  8. Starfia macrumors 6502

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    Apparently not infamous enough that this lifelong Apple fan knew about it. Link me?
     
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    https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2005...ion-Welcomes-Apple-to-Its-Board-of-Directors/
    https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2005...-Industry-in-the-Adoption-of-HD-Video-at-NAB/

    The particular quote I was referring to was "Apple is committed to both emerging high definition DVD standards—Blu-ray Disc and HD DVD" from the second link, although the first one also has a bit more information.

    I remember being shocked that 2007's OS 10.5 didn't offer playback support for either format (technically there was limited HD DVD playback support, but it didn't work for the vast majority of commercial movies).
     
  10. Starfia macrumors 6502

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    Ah, thank you. Now that I see it, I think it's possible I did read that, though I don't remember being shocked about a lack of playback support – I think I was Apple-wary enough still to have been watching for evidence to see what they meant.

    Apple had previously engaged with big industry working groups (e.g. web standards, music labels), and their goal has always seemed to be nurturing enough flexibility and openness to achieve their particular ends. My guess is that they were trying to do that with Blu-ray and HD-DVD, couldn't, and therefore decided not to make them first-class citizens on the Mac. They did support authoring and burning of them from within Final Cut Pro, and I think they at least still support Blu-ray burning today.
     
  11. Tech198 thread starter macrumors G4

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    MakeMKV is not as good as handbrake when it comes to presets... though

    just because its creates .mkv doesn't mean its gonna *all* be good.... That is video,,, but what about audio and bit-rate...

    With Handbrake u can set these....

    I'm guessing Handbrake doesn't support Blueray because they don't wanna get in trouble ?

    Why is dylib libraries must be added then to "support" DVD retail? As you can make the argument Retail DVD's won't convert without them anyway, yet u must use a seperate app for Blueray...

    All u gotta do is do the same thing.

    It got everyone attention that's for certain.
     
  12. T'hain Esh Kelch macrumors 601

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    MakeMKV and Handbrake are two completely different programs. One is a ripper, the other is a video transcoder, so of course they don't do the same.

    MakeMKV creates a bit-for-bit copy.


    They simple don't support removal of DRM when it comes to AACS and BD+ protected media. MakeMKV does. Since DRM is an ongoing battle, it would just take too much developer time to be worth it, so it is out of scope for the project. Anyone is welcome to add it of course.
     
  13. Tech198 thread starter macrumors G4

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    ah.. ok, and i guess the 'not ongoing battle for DVD' is probably why it IS supported.. Thanks.
     
  14. T'hain Esh Kelch macrumors 601

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    Handbrake does not support DRM removal on DVD's, so no. libdvdcss which can be used as an extension, is *not* a part of the Handbrake project!
     
  15. Tech198 thread starter macrumors G4

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    I didn't mean it was part of the project, i mean it worked. (i say supported weather or not its done done by others)

    The reason i bought up as to why no one would probably do Bluray aacs is probably because no one can constantly keep it up to date.. always

    When DVD's are mature.... everyone knows the encryption, and there will be no new updates to CSS that would render 90% DVD's uncopyable, or updated versions. as the reason blueray is not there
     

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