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If you're asking me I'm not sure but it seems to be doing at least SOMEthing with my blu-ray rip (which is a lot more than I can say for the many methods I've used up til now) 3 mins to go then there's another (?) .mkv file on my desktop that I'm assuming I'll be able to put into BDSuptoSub as per Roidy's instructions (Is that right, Roidy?)
 
Yep, once you've got all the sup files extracted you just need to figure out which is the forced one, it will probably be the one with the smallest file size, you can also open it with BDSup2Sub to make sure its the right one.

Another easy way is when you rip your Blu-Ray with MakeMKV, uncheck all the subtitles except the forced ones. This will then only include the forced ones in the MKV file.

How does MkvTools go at reading bluray subs ?

All MKVTools does is extract the streams from an MKV file, what you do with those streams is then upto you.
 
It didn't give me any .sup files, it just created what seems like a duplicate of my .mkv file on my desktop, what did I miss?
 
It finished "muxing", I guess, and it doesn't appear to have given me any .sup files on my desktop (which I set as the output folder) It just appears to have created a lesser-quality duplicate of my original .mkv file where I thought it was going to have the .sup files. What did I do wrong?
 
Not sure, give me half an hour or so and I'm going to rip my IronMan Blu-ray and follow along and see if we can't figure it out.
 
My browser crashed and I thought the comment didn't go through but it did so disregard my last one I guess. That would be awesome; I figure if I can figure out how to do this with this one raw blu-ray rip of Iron Man I can do it with all the movies I have with forced subs. Let me know when you're ready to go ahead with that, thanks.
 
It can't read them and burn them into the video ?

I'll have to try it out latter when i get a chance.

No, it's just a muxer/demuxer for extracting and inserting tracks into a mkv file.

My browser crashed and I thought the comment didn't go through but it did so disregard my last one I guess. That would be awesome; I figure if I can figure out how to do this with this one raw blu-ray rip of Iron Man I can do it with all the movies I have with forced subs. Let me know when you're ready to go ahead with that, thanks.

Ok, I'm ready. First thing, do you know how to use the command line?
 
The command line? is this in MKVToolnix we're talking about?

No, sorry but just asking that means you don't know what the command line is or how to use it.

Ok lets go back to the Clown_BD method. Open Clown_BD and then open your IronMan.mkv file:-
step1.JPG
Notice I've checked the Force Subtitles option, now press next:-

step2.JPG
Make sure the video, english audio and all the english subtitle tracks are checked. Then press next and wait.

Let me know when you've got this far:D
 
In my VMWare Fusion Windows where I installed Clown it can't find the IronMan.mkv at all. This might be because it was ripped onto my Mac Desktop, but I tried transferring to the windows desktop via a USB external hard drive but it was unsuccessful. So if I can't get Clown to load the .mkv, what do I do?

ugh. I got clown to find ironman.mkv by browsing for it, but it just opens Windows media player instead of doing anything
 
I don't understand, opening a mkv in Clown_BD shouldn't launch a media player:confused:

It should be as easy as runnning Clown_BD, press the browse button and locate your mkv file.
 
I don't either, I'm not too versed in Windows but thought we were going to try a way to do it natively in OS X? With MKVToolnix to BDSuptoSub and all of that
 
I don't either, I'm not too versed in Windows but thought we were going to try a way to do it natively in OS X? With MKVToolnix to BDSuptoSub and all of that

Inorder to use the MKVToolnix method you need to know how to use OSX command line, can you use the command line?
 
Ok, fire up a terminal and lets get started:D

I'll give you the Windows command line versions and it's upto you to convert them to the mac equivalent.

1. use mkvmerge to get the track info.

mkvmerge -i ironman.mkv

You'll need to supply the correct location of your mkv file

This will output the following:-
File 'f:\ironman.mkv': container: M
Track ID 1: video (V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC)
Track ID 2: audio (A_AC3)
Track ID 3: audio (A_AC3)
Track ID 4: audio (A_AC3)
Track ID 5: subtitles (S_HDMV/PGS)
Track ID 7: subtitles (S_HDMV/PGS)
Track ID 9: subtitles (S_HDMV/PGS)
Track ID 11: subtitles (S_HDMV/PGS)
Track ID 13: subtitles (S_HDMV/PGS)
Track ID 15: subtitles (S_HDMV/PGS)
Track ID 16: subtitles (S_HDMV/PGS)
Track ID 17: subtitles (S_HDMV/PGS)
Track ID 18: subtitles (S_HDMV/PGS)
Track ID 19: subtitles (S_HDMV/PGS)
Track ID 20: subtitles (S_HDMV/PGS)
Chapters: 15 entries

This wont tell you which track is the english forced one. Next time you rip your Blu-Ray only select the english forced track to make thing much easier.
 
It looks like my IronMan.mkv file didn't survive the trip from the "Shared Items" folder, I can't find it anywhere on my Mac or in the Windows virtual machine. Is it alright if I PM you when I have it ripped again? I've been going at this for hours and really appreciate all the help and advice, thanks
 
It looks like my IronMan.mkv file didn't survive the trip from the "Shared Items" folder, I can't find it anywhere on my Mac or in the Windows virtual machine. Is it alright if I PM you when I have it ripped again? I've been going at this for hours and really appreciate all the help and advice, thanks

Sure, but to make things much easier next time when you rip it only rip the forced subtitle tracks.
 
No, it's just a muxer/demuxer for extracting and inserting tracks into a mkv file.

Mkvtools, can encode video and burn subs or mux subs into the video. It burns srt wich Handbrake can't.

It produces great results and is a lot easier to use than handbrake.

I was just wondering if it could read the subs from BluRay rips make with MakeMkv
 
Yea, i was talking about Mkvtools.

I havent got any files i can test it with to see if it reads subs from makemkv bluray rips, thats why i asked here.

Maybe i should email the developer.
 
Yep, I've never used it as it's Mac only, but looking at the site it says nothing about Blu-Ray sup subtitles so I doubt it. I think the best you could expect it to do is extract the subtitles so you can manually convert them using BDSup2Sub.
 
No, sorry but just asking that means you don't know what the command line is or how to use it.

Ok lets go back to the Clown_BD method. Open Clown_BD and then open your IronMan.mkv file:-
Notice I've checked the Force Subtitles option, now press next:-

Make sure the video, english audio and all the english subtitle tracks are checked. Then press next and wait.

Let me know when you've got this far:D

roidy,

I used my rip of Iron Man, followed your exact Clown_BD settings and I don't get the "forced subtitles" show up when I run it through. Any help?

Actually, I remuxed it back into a M2TS again. Could that be the problem? Is there a way to make Media Player or Media Center play the forced subtitles. I know this is a Mac forum but you seemed to have Windows experience earlier.

Thanks,
Chris
 
Not to make you mad, but I have trouble differentiating subtitle types. So far I've heard .srt, .sup, and now the PGS I take it. I guess trying to take these subtitle files that I just now learned are PGS files out of my blu-ray rip .mkv is a futile endeavor, what ways can I get an "external .srt" as it says in HB to burn in to my encode? I try search engines but all they come up with are ghetto ones that are what looks like loose english translations from foreign-speaking users watching the movie
[doublepost=1501439926][/doublepost]I just ripped my own blu ray with anydvd and makemkv. Used mkvtoolnix to extract the subtitles and then converted the subtitles to srt with subtitle edit to use in handbrake but although i had no help i managed to do it first go..now i'm just waiting for the results once i have compressed to mp4..
 
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