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IT'S THE SAME PRICE AS THE OLD ONE. The OG HomePod was $299, and the "new" HomePod is $299 but with 2 less tweeters and 2 less mics. Apple marketers are really earning their paychecks with this widespread lie that the new HP is cheaper.
Fair call. I missed that.
But it's not $100 cheaper. It's the same price.
as above. I thought I read it.

in that case, it kinda sucks then.
 
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No software can cheat physics no one speaker can sound great you need stereo at least and also 2 HomePods before sounded bad u have a full av set up with real floor sounding speakers and atmos home cinema set up, sorry but no marketing can make one Homepod worth it, the original one always got the treble wrong where ever I put it it made the treble and highs on the other side of the HomePods so I didn’t hear it, it never bounced of walls I hated it

Is the period key on your keyboard broken? That was painful to read.

Yes, software can account for physics.
 


One of the first hands-on experiences with the new second-generation HomePod has offered new details on the latest smart speaker's quality and performance compared to the original HomePod launched in 2018.

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TechRadar's Lance Ulanoff had the chance to listen to the new HomePod during a listening session by Apple for members of the media and shared his experience with the speaker.

According to Ulanoff, the new HomePod handles the separation of vocals, instruments, and tracks with "excellent" precision when listening to songs like "Everybody" by Ingrid Michaelson. "What I noticed immediately is, from a single HomePod 2, the excellent separation of acoustic instruments and her voice. I could clearly pick out a tambourine, guitar, and drum kit as distinct elements in the air," Ulanoff said.

One challenge often faced by typical speakers is that the louder the volume, the more distorted the audio can become. Ulanoff said that even with the volume at 90%, the new HomePod delivers "aural clarity" with no distortion. According to Ulanoff, the new HomePod has a sensor built into its design that can measure the internal temperature of the system and, if under ideal conditions, can "crank up the power even further."

Like the original HomePod, the new model has spatial awareness, but with better performance thanks to advanced computational audio and improved hardware, like the S7 chip. With spatial audio, the new HomePod, either alone or in a stereo pair, can offer an immersive 360-degree listening experience.

Ulanoff called a stereo pair of new HomePods "impressive," adding that certain songs felt as if they were "coming from behind and in front of me. The sound stage was so wide and deep that it didn't matter where I stood in the room." It's worth noting that first-generation HomePods can't be used in a stereo pair with the newer model, according to Apple.

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Internals of the new second-generation HomePod

Visually, the new HomePod looks a lot like the original smart speaker, but with a larger backlit touch interface and a slightly shorter design. Internally, the new model has two fewer tweeters and microphones than the original HomePod, which was likely a cost-cutting decision. The tweeters and microphones are "tilted up to avoid any audio being distorted by reflections from whatever surface the speaker is sitting on," according to Ulanoff.

Like the original HomePod, the new speaker can quickly analyze its placement in a room to adjust the audio accordingly in just 20 seconds, thanks to a combination of the four microphones and the S7 chip. A built-in accelerometer also detects movement to allow the speaker to readjust its room analysis.

The new HomePod comes around two years after Apple discontinued its original smart speaker. The first-generation HomePod failed to be the market success Apple was hoping for, because of its high $349 price at launch and limited integration with third-party services. We'll get a closer look at the new HomePod when media reviews are published in the days leading up to its launch on Friday, February 3.

Article Link: Hands-On Experience of New HomePod Reveals 'Exquisite' Audio Quality
can we take the electronics out and put them in the old Homepod? Now that would be cool along with features like awareness of who is in the house, dogs barking, basic security features and maybe even a good morning when I get out of bed!
 
yes is the answer, at least with the OG's and Mini's. you select it like any other audio source.
Thanks for answering my question. I don't know what OG stands for, but I have a Mac Studio (with M1 Max). If I get the new HomePod, would I be able to use it like a normal speaker? i.e. not only for smart-speaker use cases, or just to play Apple Music, but for all system sounds irrespective of their source? Thanks again
 
Two less microphones so Siri has two more excuses to reply hmmmmm I’m now sure who’s speaking


All this was said also about the original HomePod. I can’t help but thinking they simply took the original HomePod chopped off some components and advertised it as “all new” like they got used to do lately.
New processor ok. So when you ask Siri to turn off the kitchen light you get the music to start playing, just a bit faster.



No need to pump the hype on this!
 
I really would like to add a pair of these to my living room, but I still have a few reservations, which are:

Price - $299 is better than the $350 of the original, but still $50 too much.
Connectivity - Still no analog audio input/output options. I see no way to integrate a subwoofer.
Privacy - Based on past actions, I'm not sure I can trust Apple with an always-on, always-listening device in my house.

I really want to like this product, but those issues are still likely to keep me at bay.
You can turn off Hey Siri in HomePod options via the Home app. Just pointing it out as I didn’t know this until recently either.
 
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So happy Apple released this new HomePod. I will be picking up two the first week in February. They will join the 5 OG HomePods and the 5 minis I have now. By far my favorite Apple product and I own a 14 in MacBook Pro, M2 11in iPad Pro, AirPods 2nd Gen, and Apple Watch Ultra. The Watch is #2.
 
Apple only invites shilly journalists/youtubers/influencers. Once they stop being shilly, they are not invited anymore.
That’s exactly how it is.

I always have to laugh about this hyped and biased reviews.
I thought the first homepod already had the best-ever sound quality… now it’s even more exquisite?? Crazy stuff.
 
Maybe an objective review by a journalist that actually review audio products? It is so difficult to have a review that I can trust... For what I have witnessed for myself, you pay for the convenience of the ecosystem and that is something. But the first generation was a disappointing speaker for its price point. The minis are impressive for the price and the convenience, but they are not good speakers, not by a long shot. My unsolicited advice, listen to them to see if they suit your needs.
 
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This definitely isn’t intended in the snarky way it will come off, but I wonder if in these ‘hearing tests’ there’s ever a control for the quality of the hearers’ actual measurable hearing quality. I myself had two OG HomePods and was convinced they sounded like ass…until I found out I had literal serious, measurable hearing loss in one ear and got hearing aids in both. Thanks to the ‘aids, I’m now far happier with the ‘Pods as well as my AirPods Max. Before the ‘aids I ignorantly told everyone I knew that they weren’t impressive at all, and without my ‘aids in both sound average at best today.
 
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Imagine if they listened to some real hi fi speakers ,I imagine their heads would explode 🤯
HomePods are bookshelf size and made to self-balance, and it works surprisingly well. In a smallish bad-acoustic space they give better sound than real hi fi speakers.

Larger space with good acoustics one is better off with real hi fi speakers (+amp, preamp, subwoofer).
 
The boomy over-exaggerated bass of the original made it impossible to enjoy. Tired it in many rooms, with extremely different placemens far away from corners or walls, but always the same extremely boomy sound. It didn't sound shrill, I can give it that, but the other way around can also be tiring.

Maybe it has been fixed here, but I doubt it.
My trained ears do not observe over-exaggerated bass on the original. Perhaps you got a bad sample.
 
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I'm seeing a lot of the media is talking about the change from A8 to the S7 as a "massive upgrade", which is a bit misleading. Sure it is a newer chip that is fit for purpose, but let's be honest here - the change from an iPhone chip to an Apple Watch chip was probably about reducing the production cost more than anything else.
Computationally, though, it’s still a massive upgrade from the chip that used to be in it, not misleading at all. I guess they could have said “the probable reason why they went to an Apple Watch chip, which is a massive upgrade from the much older iPhone chip, was about reducing the production cost more than anything else” ?
 
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Okay, a bit of reality here... Apple sets up a demonstration in a quality controlled area for hard core, card carrying fan club members and the fan club goes wild. Pretty much like a pep rally at a school before the big game. Calm down, take several deep breaths, and wait for the average Jane and Joe to review these SpecDumpPods in a real world environment far away from the showmanship that would have brought tears of joy to the eyes of P.T. Barnum.

Yep, I said dump, as in fewer speakers and out dated Wi-Fi, etc. They don't even qualify as a spec bump, just a dump...
Chill. Original HomePods are truly excellent in any smallish acoustically difficult space, not demonstration in a quality controlled area. There is no reason Apple should have made these worse, so all your dissing makes no sense.
 
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Thanks for answering my question. I don't know what OG stands for, but I have a Mac Studio (with M1 Max). If I get the new HomePod, would I be able to use it like a normal speaker? i.e. not only for smart-speaker use cases, or just to play Apple Music, but for all system sounds irrespective of their source? Thanks again
No, there’s no wired connection, it’s all through AirPlay. You COULD connect it wirelessly, and music would play fine, videos would be in synch, but system sounds would be slightly delayed from when the UI would show they’re happening.
 
I’m somewhat excited about the new HomePod. And I’ll definitely be buying one to try it out.

I have the first generation HomePod and all these years I thought it sounded great until I bought a new Bose Home Speaker 500 at a steep discount just to give it a try since I’m moving to the world of Android.

With a little equalizer boost, my personal opinion is that the Bose Smart Speaker 500 sounds much better than the original HomePod. The design is much better IMHO, its bass is punchier, and the trebles and mid-frequencies are sharper and have just about enough “spatial separation”. HomePod, now, in comparison, just sounds muddy through and through.

Don’t get me wrong, I don’t favor Bose products aside from their excellent NC 700 headset and their Companion 2 and 20 computer speakers which came in really handy for my minimalist computer setup for years. But I am in love with the Home Speaker 500 over HomePod at this point. I still have about 2 months to return them so I hope I get a chance to compare them with the new HomePod and decide which one I’ll keep.

I couldn’t care less about the “smartness” of these speakers. I care about the quality of sound I can get from a compact setup.
 
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