Hands-On With Apple's Most Lackluster Smartphone: The 2022 iPhone SE

[MacWanker]

Looking forward to my lacklustre new phone arriving tomorrow.
Trading in my 2017 launch month 8 (the trade in value is MORE than the cost of the replacement battery that it requires) and the total finance cost is 14 bucks a month for 24 months.
I can use my existing case, it serves my needs (and has the all important to me touch ID) and it should last me another five years until it's either painfully slow or no longer supports lots of apps.
No brainer.

 

[bondr006]

3 weeks out of the gate and the Apple detractors are saying the 2022 SE is a failure. No surprise here.

Remember this:

"Yes, our good friends at Nikkei Asia are back with more tales of iPhone production cuts to astonish. Nikkei is the same outfit that four years ago told us Apple was cutting iPhone X production by a whopping 50 percent because it was such a loser. The iPhone X, as you may recall, went on to sell extremely well."

Let's have this conversation at the end of the year when we have the real facts on how well it sold. Until then, it is all nothing but speculation.

 

[lepidotós]

I have a 6.5" Motorola right now and it's physically uncomfortable to use since it's nearly as long as my whole fingerspan making me need to rearrange my hand to touch stuff higher up on the screen, I'd love something around 5 inches like the Aristo 2 Plus I had last year. I used it over this one despite having both at the same time because it fit my hands better, and only switched over because it totally died.
And I'm 20, my hands aren't really going to get any bigger. I'd really hate to see the 5" market totally die off.​

 

[DEman19901]

I have a 6.5" Motorola right now and it's physically uncomfortable to use since it's nearly as long as my whole fingerspan making me need to rearrange my hand to touch stuff higher up on the screen, I'd love something around 5 inches like the Aristo 2 Plus I had last year. I used it over this one despite having both at the same time because it fit my hands better, and only switched over because it totally died.
And I'm 20, my hands aren't really going to get any bigger. I'd really hate to see the 5" market totally die off.​

Weekly poll results: people say they want small phones, but that is not apparent in sales numbers - comments

www.gsmarena.com

People love small phones, so how come no oneâs buying them?

Apple might soon launch a new version of the iPhone SE with 5G connectivity, but are people buying small phones?

thenextweb.com

There are some strong reasons behind the shrinking sales of phones with screens 6-inches and under. Research firm Counterpoint said that the market for such devices has reduced from 81% in 2018 to just under 10% in 2021."

Again, nobody wants small phones.

 

[bousozoku]

It is lackluster. That's why Apple has already slashed production and ramped up production of the 13. Nobody wants the lackluster SE.

Low Demand Is Forcing Apple To Slash iPhone SE 5G Production

Apple’s new iPhone SE 5G was supposed to be a way for customers who wanted an iPhone with 5G to get their hands on the device without...

www.ubergizmo.com

Thank you for calling me nobody.

Mine is quite good, even if it doesn't meet "everyone's" standards.

It's still better than the 2020 iPhone SE, 8, 7, 6, or 4S that I had previously.

It's also better in many ways to my OnePlus 8T with the huge OLED display and big battery capacity with Android 11.

 

[DEman19901]

Thank you for calling me nobody.

Mine is quite good, even if it doesn't meet "everyone's" standards.

It's still better than the 2020 iPhone SE, 8, 7, 6, or 4S that I had previously.

It's also better in many ways to my OnePlus 8T with the huge OLED display and big battery capacity with Android 11.

Even Apple is now realizing that nobody want small phones lmao.

Apple is Realizing Nobody Wants Small Phones - ExtremeTech

Some people really love small phones. It just seems like there's not enough of them.

www.extremetech.com

 

[DEman19901]

Thank you for calling me nobody.

Mine is quite good, even if it doesn't meet "everyone's" standards.

It's still better than the 2020 iPhone SE, 8, 7, 6, or 4S that I had previously.

It's also better in many ways to my OnePlus 8T with the huge OLED display and big battery capacity with Android 11.

"he recently launched iPhone SE also selling poorly, the writing suddenly appeared on the wall. Donovan describes the situation as Apple coming to realization that small phones have only “limited appeal.” To compensate, Apple has reduced its production of the iPhone SE by 20 million units, and increased its orders for the tallboy iPhone 13."

OUCH!

 

[DEman19901]

3 weeks out of the gate and the Apple detractors are saying the 2022 SE is a failure. No surprise here.

Remember this:

"Yes, our good friends at Nikkei Asia are back with more tales of iPhone production cuts to astonish. Nikkei is the same outfit that four years ago told us Apple was cutting iPhone X production by a whopping 50 percent because it was such a loser. The iPhone X, as you may recall, went on to sell extremely well."

Let's have this conversation at the end of the year when we have the real facts on how well it sold. Until then, it is all nothing but speculation.

Not the same thing. The iPhone X got off to a slow start because of the price. At the time it was the only $1K phone and people were reluctant to the price and the radical new design. The SE on the other hand is the same old tired design , cheap in price, and it still doesn't sell. Sales ain't going to miraculously change. It's a failure.

 

[MacBH928]

Lackluster is a compound adjective that means what it sounds like: if something is lackluster it lacks luster; in other words, it is without brilliance, shine, or vitality. Think dull

its not lackluster , it has features that the flagship phone does not have like touchID and the Home Button and a better screen size, at least for me. Any larger I would call it iPad Nano. It also comes with a great price point because it does not have the unnecessary cinema production gear on its back. Its a phone with a camera, not a camera that can dial numbers.

One major mistake Apple did imo is they had 0 aesthetic design changes on a model from 2016. If they kept mostly the same but some new designs it would have sold a lot better.. Who knows, maybe by next year they realise this mistake and release SE 23 with a refreshed design

As for orders slashing, they might have over estimated the demands, apple has slashed orders for many of its successful products inc

Apple slashes planned iPhone 12 mini production for 1H

Total iPhone target for 2021 still at 230m units despite global parts shortage

asia.nikkei.com

Apple slashes iPad production in half, reroutes chips to iPhones: report

Apple has reportedly slashed iPad production in half and is shifting components from older iPhone models to the iPhone 13 as the tech giant seeks to weather a global chip shortage that has already …

nypost.com

Reports: Apple slashes iPhone component orders

Apple has slashed orders for iPhone screens in the first quarter by half, according to Monday reports out of both Japan and the U.S.

www.computerworld.com

Apple Slashes Orders For 2018 IPhones By 20% - TechShout

Apple is getting things ready for the production phase of this year’s iPhones and it seems like the situation isn’t as rosy as last year. It had ordered 100

www.techshout.com

 

[lepidotós]

Look, dude, just buy one, use it, be happy, and live your life. It'll being those all important market share stats up. Nobody's gonna change nobody else's mind here, expecting to get anywhere with this is just asking for frustration.​

 

[MacBH928]

I have a 6.5" Motorola right now and it's physically uncomfortable to use since it's nearly as long as my whole fingerspan making me need to rearrange my hand to touch stuff higher up on the screen, I'd love something around 5 inches like the Aristo 2 Plus I had last year. I used it over this one despite having both at the same time because it fit my hands better, and only switched over because it totally died.
And I'm 20, my hands aren't really going to get any bigger. I'd really hate to see the 5" market totally die off.​

I found the 5.4 inch of the iphone mini to be too large for single handed device.

 

[DEman19901]

its not lackluster , it has features that the flagship phone does not have like touchID and the Home Button and a better screen size, at least for me. Any larger I would call it iPad Nano. It also comes with a great price point because it does not have the unnecessary cinema production gear on its back. Its a phone with a camera, not a camera that can dial numbers.

One major mistake Apple did imo is they had 0 aesthetic design changes on a model from 2016. If they kept mostly the same but some new designs it would have sold a lot better.. Who knows, maybe by next year they realise this mistake and release SE 23 with a refreshed design

As for orders slashing, they might have over estimated the demands, apple has slashed orders for many of its successful products inc

Apple slashes planned iPhone 12 mini production for 1H

Total iPhone target for 2021 still at 230m units despite global parts shortage

asia.nikkei.com

Apple slashes iPad production in half, reroutes chips to iPhones: report

Apple has reportedly slashed iPad production in half and is shifting components from older iPhone models to the iPhone 13 as the tech giant seeks to weather a global chip shortage that has already …

nypost.com

Reports: Apple slashes iPhone component orders

Apple has slashed orders for iPhone screens in the first quarter by half, according to Monday reports out of both Japan and the U.S.

www.computerworld.com

Apple Slashes Orders For 2018 IPhones By 20% - TechShout

Apple is getting things ready for the production phase of this year’s iPhones and it seems like the situation isn’t as rosy as last year. It had ordered 100

www.techshout.com

GAMINGDEPUTY

‏‏‎‎‏‏‎ ‎News, Reviews & Insights

www.gamingdeputy.com

Nobody Wants The New IPhone SE Of 2022 - GEARRICE

Production is the first aspect of the chain where Apple has had to make changes, taking into account the low demand that exists for this phone all over the

www.gearrice.com

Not only is if lackluster, IT"S A FAILURE.

 

[MacBH928]

GAMINGDEPUTY

‏‏‎‎‏‏‎ ‎News, Reviews & Insights

www.gamingdeputy.com

Nobody Wants The New IPhone SE Of 2022 - GEARRICE

Production is the first aspect of the chain where Apple has had to make changes, taking into account the low demand that exists for this phone all over the

www.gearrice.com

Not only is if lackluster, IT"S A FAILURE.

"Kuo predicts that Apple will sell only in 2022 15-20 million copies of the iPhone SE. Although this number does not seem small, it is worth noting that initially the analyst predicted that as many as 25-30 million users would choose the compact model. A drop by even half does not bode well."

-https://www.gamingdeputy.com/apples-iphone-se-is-a-failure-it-sells-hopelessly

This means if Apple makes $100 profit on each phone SE it will make $1.5 Billion in profits in 2022. Please let apple give me this failing business, I will take the loses for them.

 

[DEman19901]

"Kuo predicts that Apple will sell only in 2022 15-20 million copies of the iPhone SE. Although this number does not seem small, it is worth noting that initially the analyst predicted that as many as 25-30 million users would choose the compact model. A drop by even half does not bode well."

-https://www.gamingdeputy.com/apples-iphone-se-is-a-failure-it-sells-hopelessly

This means if Apple makes $100 profit on each phone SE it will make $1.5 Billion in profits in 2022. Please let apple give me this failing business, I will take the loses for them.

So what's your point? I'm an Apple shareholder,but the phone is still lackluster. Do you even realize how stupid that you sound? It's I about the profit margin for the company,who cares about if it comes from the lackluster SE. The discussion is about the SE,not Apple as a company. Then again,when the SE is trash,you have to deflect to something else. Oh and by the way,your math is wrong.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Everybody I know who has this phone loves it. Not exactly lacklustre unless you’re a tech snob.

 

[DEman19901]

Everybody I know who has this phone loves it. Not exactly lacklustre unless you’re a tech snob.

Suuuuuure they do All two of them. I have yet to see somebody buy an SE.....Ever..Maybe the bough it for their children,but not as their daily driver. Not with those poor specs.

 

[stinkhorn9]

Suuuuuure they do All two of them. I have yet to see somebody buy an SE.....Ever..Maybe the bough it for their children,but not as their daily driver. Not with those poor specs.

Hi!

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Suuuuuure they do All two of them. I have yet to see somebody buy an SE.....Ever..Maybe the bough it for their children,but not as their daily driver. Not with those poor specs.

My mum has one and a couple of people I know who aren’t into phones with any enthusiasm. The SE is also a good phone for businesses as it’s lower cost than other iPhones so is ideal for sales people etc.

Not sure what is poor about the specs as it’ll do all the main tasks other iPhones do? It has an A15 chip that is very capable and is 5G equipped. Again it goes back to my original point where perhaps only tech snobs look down on this phone and judge it based on their own preferences rather than seeing the bigger picture.

 

[DEman19901]

My mum has one and a couple of people I know who aren’t into phones with any enthusiasm. The SE is also a good phone for businesses as it’s lower cost than other iPhones so is ideal for sales people etc.

Not sure what is poor about the specs as it’ll do all the main tasks other iPhones do? It has an A15 chip that is very capable and is 5G equipped. Again it goes back to my original point where perhaps only tech snobs look down on this phone and judge it based on their own preferences rather than seeing the bigger picture.

It goes back to this....nobody wants small phones and definitely not a small phone with ancient hardware.

Apple is Realizing Nobody Wants Small Phones - ExtremeTech

Some people really love small phones. It just seems like there's not enough of them.

www.extremetech.com

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

It goes back to this....nobody wants small phones and definitely not a small phone with ancient hardware.

Apple is Realizing Nobody Wants Small Phones - ExtremeTech

Some people really love small phones. It just seems like there's not enough of them.

www.extremetech.com

Clearly not ‘nobody’ otherwise the SE wouldn’t sell a single unit let alone the projected 30 million for this year.

The hardware isn’t ‘ancient’ either, it’s a very capable smartphone and will handle all the general tasks iPhones are required to perform. It may look an old phone with its classic design, but in terms of functionality the SE is as powerful as it needs to be to attract consumers who don’t want to spend more than £419 on a smartphone.

It may not be the phone you would personally use, me neither, but it has its market and that is impossible to dispute.

 

[DEman19901]

Clearly not ‘nobody’ otherwise the SE wouldn’t sell a single unit let alone the projected 30 million for this year.

The hardware isn’t ‘ancient’ either, it’s a very capable smartphone and will handle all the general tasks iPhones are required to perform. It may look an old phone with its classic design, but in terms of functionality the SE is as powerful as it needs to be to attract consumers who don’t want to spend more than £419 on a smartphone.

It may not be the phone you would personally use, me neither, but it has its market and that is impossible to dispute.

Apple iPhone SE 3 (2022) Review: A15 Bionic at $430 just about makes up for outdated design

The new Apple iPhone SE 3 (2022) brings the best mobile SoC and a small build for $430. But does it bring a great experience? Read our review!

www.xda-developers.com

Apple's New iPhone SE Could Have Been Great

The cheapest iPhone has the same processor as the most expensive iPhone. But it doesn't feel very special.

www.wired.com

iPhone SE 3 (2022) review: An uneven and disappointing 'upgrade'

Apple upgraded the part it didn't need to—the processor—while ignoring all the upgrades it should have made.

www.google.com

ANCIENT

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Apple iPhone SE 3 (2022) Review: A15 Bionic at $430 just about makes up for outdated design

The new Apple iPhone SE 3 (2022) brings the best mobile SoC and a small build for $430. But does it bring a great experience? Read our review!

www.xda-developers.com

Apple's New iPhone SE Could Have Been Great

The cheapest iPhone has the same processor as the most expensive iPhone. But it doesn't feel very special.

www.wired.com

iPhone SE 3 (2022) review: An uneven and disappointing 'upgrade'

Apple upgraded the part it didn't need to—the processor—while ignoring all the upgrades it should have made.

www.google.com

ANCIENT

It’s all opinion at the end of the day and as a product it will appeal to some and not others. Not everybody views smartphones like a tech reviewer would or studies specs like them either. Nothing changes the fact millions of people will buy and enjoy the iPhone SE.

 

[DEman19901]

It’s all opinion at the end of the day and as a product it will appeal to some and not others. Not everybody views smartphones like a tech reviewer would or studies specs like them either. Nothing changes the fact millions of people will buy and enjoy the iPhone SE.

Apple is striking out with the 5G iPhone SE, but 'services' and the iPhone 13 are performing well

Contrary to many pre-release forecasts, the third-gen iPhone SE is not very popular, which is actually good news for the iPhone 13 and potentially iPhone 14 too.

www.phonearena.com

 

[stinkhorn9]

Yup - in my own spehere I have one; two colleagues have them; a friend of mine has one: I (and presumably they) want nothing more than the great camera, home button; iOS, fast chip; small enough phone to use one-handed; reasonable price.

 

[DEman19901]

Yup - in my own spehere I have one; two colleagues have them; a friend of mine has one: I (and presumably they) want nothing more than the great camera, home button; iOS, fast chip; small enough phone to use one-handed; reasonable price.

https://www.xda-developers.com/apple-iphone-se-3-review/Really outdated design with thick bezels

• Battery life won't be able to last all day
• Lack of ultra-wide or zoom lens limits camera versatility

Apple iPhone SE Review: A Phone for the Anti-Consumer

Why spend more if you don’t have to? The new $430 iPhone meets all the criteria of what most of us need in a smartphone.

www.nytimes.com

"In my tests, the iPhone SE took clear and vibrant photos in daylight, but it didn’t do as well in more challenging lighting conditions. In a photo of my dogs on a shaded path, the iPhone SE produced an image with less detail and unnatural colors compared with the $700 iPhone 13 Mini. The iPhone SE camera also lacks the special night mode found on the fancier iPhones for taking photos in the dark. Using flash is always an option, though."

Stop with the buffoonery. The SE's camera is lackluster.