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There's no good reason for thick bezel to exist in 2019 iMac. Rest of us shouldn't suffer iMac with big bezel because some of you have distracting wall or decorations behind the computer.

Suffer? How exactly is anyone suffering because iMac's have big bezels? Perhaps there is a disconnect between intent and meaning, but you completely jumped the shark with that one.
 
Suffer? How exactly is anyone suffering because iMac's have big bezels? Perhaps there is a disconnect between intent and meaning, but you completely jumped the shark with that one.

That even surprised me as a bit of an extreme expression, but those of us that are designers or have a more keen eye for design, can find some of these things quite painful to see.

Here's what I mean:

Jony Ive is horrified by how most modern cars look
 
Suffer? How exactly is anyone suffering because iMac's have big bezels? Perhaps there is a disconnect between intent and meaning, but you completely jumped the shark with that one.
The term suffer has many uses. I certainly wasn't implying physical nor emotional suffering.

suffer | ˈsəfər |

verb [with object]
  1. experience or be subjected to (something bad or unpleasant): he'd suffered intense pain | [no object] : he'd suffered a great deal since his arrest.
    [no object] (suffer from) be affected by or subject to (an illness or ailment): his daughter suffered from agoraphobia.
    [no object] become or appear worse in quality: his relationship with Anne did suffer.
    [no object] archaic undergo martyrdom or execution.
  2. archaic tolerate: France will no longer suffer the existing government.
    • allow (someone) to do something: [with object and infinitive] : my conscience would not suffer me to accept any more.
 
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Good review...very basic but also straightforward... I have a circa 2012 27 inch Imac, most of the high end options at the time - and has a built in DVD...ok, it is old. Apple replaced the graphics card a few years back at no cost... so even though the replacement period had passed, they did the work and kept a loyal customer...between me, the wife and kids, we probably have at least 20 iphones, imacs, macbooks of various types etc etc etc... The one mistake I made was to load parallels on the IMac... next time I will use bootcamp with an external SSD with Win 10 as a standalone. So the time has come to upgrade and then do a clean reload on the old machine and let the kids use it for homework. I think I will go with the high end on processor and graphics, 8GB on RAM (and then add 32GB aftermarket to the two open slots) and a 1 TB SSD. I will keep photos and videos on an external SSD and have a good external HD for backup using time machine. That should suffice for a solid five years. The next purchase after that is a 24 inch Epson printer. I never use a laptop but always have an Ipad Pro with me.
 
The term suffer has many uses. I certainly wasn't implying physical nor emotional suffering.
suffer | ˈsəfər |

verb [with object]
  1. experience or be subjected to (something bad or unpleasant): he'd suffered intense pain | [no object] : he'd suffered a great deal since his arrest.
    [no object] (suffer from) be affected by or subject to (an illness or ailment): his daughter suffered from agoraphobia.
    [no object] become or appear worse in quality: his relationship with Anne did suffer.
    [no object] archaic undergo martyrdom or execution.
  2. archaic tolerate: France will no longer suffer the existing government.
    • allow (someone) to do something: [with object and infinitive] : my conscience would not suffer me to accept any more.
Indeed it does. Let’s consider each of the meanings that you quoted above, shall we?

1. experience or be subjected to (something bad or unpleasant): he'd suffered intense pain | [no object] : he'd suffered a great deal since his arrest.

Nope, can’t be that; you’ve already assured us that you “certainly [weren’t] implying physical nor emotional suffering.”

• [no object] (suffer from) be affected by or subject to (an illness or ailment): his daughter suffered from agoraphobia.

Hmm, do you suffer from bezels? Unsightly black borders that make you look fat? No, that doesn’t sound quite right.

• [no object] become or appear worse in quality: his relationship with Anne did suffer.

Have you become, or do you appear, worse in quality as a result of your exposure to bezels? No?

• [no object] archaic undergo martyrdom or execution.​

Have you suffered martyrdom or execution for your opposition to bezels? (Please reply and let us know you’re alright!)

2. archaic tolerate: France will no longer suffer the existing government.
• allow (someone) to do something: [with object and infinitive] : my conscience would not suffer me to accept any more.

Bingo! Since clearly none of the other meanings fit, you must have meant the last. You (and all right-thinking people like you) should not tolerate bezels, nor allow others to use them.

I think I liked you better when bezels were only causing you emotional distress.
 
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Apple already has thinner bezels planned, look at this Mac mini booklet:

It'll just take Apple a few years to deliver.

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Lol the arguments on this thread defending Apple for not reducing iMac bezels & chin, are similar to those defending the iPhone bezels pre-iPhone X announcement (or leaks)
 
When I look at my computer, the bezels disappear because they are black. I'm a designer and I have my imac and thunderbolt monitor side by side and I think my workspace is beautiful.
 
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My guess is that even if nVidia GPUs were supported under Mojave, the AMD Radeon VII is likely to give better performance and compatibility for macOS gaming. (In Boot Camp, it’s a different matter.)


At 2560 x 1440, yes.

Hell, my Tonga-based AMD Radeon R9 M395X from 2015 still cuts it at 1440p in all but the newest games, and 1440p gaming looks gorgeous on my iMac’s 27-inch 5K display. The Radeon Pro Vega 48 is going to blow my M395X out of the water.


Maybe. I have all but given up on gaming on the Mac. Anyway; with a hackintosh, why would you even try to game on the Mac side.

FYI Gigabyte has just released a Mobo Combo with a pre-installed and overclocked i9 9900K that claims all cores can run at 5Ghz; also comes with 10Gb ethernet. I have a feeling the hackintosh crowd will be all over this one. Of course no price has been posted yet (Mobo alone is $800+).
 
Maybe. I have all but given up on gaming on the Mac. Anyway; with a hackintosh, why would you even try to game on the Mac side.

FYI Gigabyte has just released a Mobo Combo with a pre-installed and overclocked i9 9900K that claims all cores can run at 5Ghz; also comes with 10Gb ethernet. I have a feeling the hackintosh crowd will be all over this one. Of course no price has been posted yet (Mobo alone is $800+).
Sorry I am clueless, but what do you mean by Hackintosh?
 
all this complaining over bezels on a desktop misses the real crux of the problem with the current iMac iteration.

sure, having smaller bezels would look nice, but the iMac's biggest issue is it's thickness (or lack of).

We're talking about a desktop, non mobile computer. Sure, a nice thin device looks nice, but if Apple added 1/2 an inch to the overall thickness (doesn't even have to be at the corners/edges, just the bulk), they could easily take care of any thermal issues. Space constraints for updates / upgrades, and allow for easier access to upgradable internals.

quite literally there's no reason for having a desktop computer shaving off MM's of space. there's literally zero benefit. literally a couple MM's at the edge and a CM or two in the middle of thicker back chassis, and so many issues could be resolved.
 
Maybe. I have all but given up on gaming on the Mac. Anyway; with a hackintosh, why would you even try to game on the Mac side.
One could just as easily ask, “With Boot Camp, why would you even try to game on the Mac side?” I don’t see what difference having a hackintosh makes.

(Sure, you can add a more powerful GPU to a hackintosh, but then you can do the same thing via a Thunderbolt 3 eGPU on a real Mac. Obviously the real Mac will be more expensive, but that doesn’t affect the question, why game in macOS when you can game in Windows on the same machine?)

To answer that question for myself (in no particular order):
  1. The ability to do other work in macOS while gaming,
  2. The never-ending hassle of Windows driver conflicts and updates,
  3. Not having to reboot just to play a quick game,
  4. Aesthetically, I find macOS a more pleasant environment, and don’t really enjoy spending time in Windows,
  5. The desire to encourage macOS game developers, so that the state of macOS gaming might improve, and
  6. Just because I can, and I confess that I take a wee bit of delight in confounding the smug superiority of many of the PC Master Race (I’m not thinking of you, avkills) who stridently proclaim, “Macs are not for gaming! No true gamer uses a Mac!”
(These are just off the top of my head; there may be other reasons which will occur to me.)

Sorry I am clueless, but what do you mean by Hackintosh?
Installing OS X on non-apple hardware. Do a google search for more info.
I prefer the more expressive synonym “Frankenmac.” :p
 
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That report was mistaken. See the update at the top of this article.
Yup, just a monitor. (I’ve updated my original post, thx!) I could see it possibly in an iMac Pro at some point, but it’s too expensive for the regular iMac. But sales volume might not support its use in an iMac Pro either.

It’ll be interesting to see if Apple is only going to deliver the 6K3K monitor or if they’ll do a 27” 5K as well.
 
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So as predicted Apple went bezel-less and HDR in the new display, I'd like to hear from all the Apple apologists defending bezels in retro jurassic iMac now...

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So as predicted Apple went bezel-less and HDR in the new display, I'd like to hear from all the Apple apologists defending bezels in retro jurassic iMac now...

apple_mac-pro-display-pro_display-pro_060319.jpg
I have no doubt the new iMac design will have much smaller bezels. I also don’t care whether that happens next month or five years from now.

Yes, the current iMac has bezels. But it’s not a handheld device. There’s no reason it _needs_ smaller bezels.

If those in the Apple-hate crowd derive enjoyment from complaining about the iMac bezels, Apple’s ok with that.
 
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After many years and several iMacs I'm done with them, no more reflective screens for me, no more mirrors. I got a Mini an an opaque Dell display, finally I can work without annoying reflections. Too difficult for Apple to understand.
 
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