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Hands-On With Apple's 'News' App Introduced in iOS 9 Beta 3

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Codestud said:
Apple should not dilute its focus by being in the news business in any way, and instead they should be focusing on the quality of both their core operating system and other existing apps which need to be fixed.
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I agree that more effort should be made towards fixing existing apps and services. However, I see the news move as the second stage of Apple Music. Imagine the music industry publications being in Apple Music, mentioning songs with links to Apple Music, addressing the artist's Connect page in Apple Music, and talking about the release of an album on Apple Music. All because their articles generate more advertising revenue through Apple News, and promote a user reading experience not afforded elsewhere. Apple not only took care of the consumption of music, they're also taking care of the flow of traffic and information. To me, this two-punch knockout combo.

When I saw the keynote on the day it aired, it was the first thing I thought as I imagined publications like The Source Magazine, Rolling Stones, Thisis50, and other sources being on there. It creates a closed-loop, with websites being deemphasized because publications with advertisements in place, can bring their ads with and retain 100% revenue with even more exposure / focus. Then other sites without ads can begin to monetize easily while also increasing exposure / accessibility. The keynote stunned me.
 
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So, there streamlining the same tabs and wording on News as they are for Apple music ? "Add to news" ?

Boaring......

I can see where Apple would see as a "get used to one app, the same option/tabs will be in another, so you'll be part way there", its also "the same" ...

Its no longer unique, since u now have two app, BOTH with a "for you" section, and was inspired by Apple music, since it never existed before in News.

You call that great ? How about just leaving it "as is" and updating features i'm sure users want. I'm guessing, if I think along the lines of Apple music, News would become "more curative" news.. read "news that might interest you"

Personally, i would prefer, "top stories" or something. and NOT be curative" but that's just me.
 
So I'm right in saying it's available in the US and Australia right? Only the UK is missing from the original launch countries Apple mentioned at WWDC. Why is it not available in the UK?!? (Yes, I know you can change region but that's not the point.)

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It's US only, hopefully when the public beta is out, it's available in all three countries.
 
MikhailT said:
I actually think this is why Apple started to expand CloudKit services to be available via the web later this year. I think we're going to see more web-based services coming from Apple soon as they build CloudKit up. Look at Notes.app as their first experiment on iCloud.com and I hope News will be next in the future.
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Personally, I don't want to have to sign into a website just to access applications. I think we'll be seeing a native News app for the Mac next year.
 
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MikhailT said:
Hmm, I wonder if Apple is just going to replace Shared Links/Reading List in Safari with News tabs instead. I don't see the point of having these when you have News.app.
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Ummm... Shared Links and Reading List are for websites in general. They don't need to be article-based websites, so I don't know how that would translate smoothly over to the News app. Do you only add news websites to your reading list?
 
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Will there be a Mac version of the News app? I currently use Reeder and like it because I have native apps on all my Apple devices. Was wondering if I'd get the same experience with this.
 
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I can't see the news app on my iOS 9 beta 3 iPad air 2. Anyone else getting the same experience? Same for suggested apps in search, everything else is there though...
 
nostaws said:
The words "curated news" make me nervous.

I like going to a web site, reading a magazine or newspaper, - seeing everything - and making my own decisions on what to read.
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A magazine, newspaper or website is already "curated" to some extent. Just look at the different way news is presented on FOX compared to BBC or The Daily Mail to the Daily Star.
 
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MikhailT said:
Hmm, I wonder if Apple is just going to replace Shared Links/Reading List in Safari with News tabs instead. I don't see the point of having these when you have News.app.
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How would one replace the other?

News is a way to read up on current events. It's arguably similar to Shared Links (which includes RSS support), assuming it also lets you follow links shared by people you follow on Twitter and/or LinkedIn.

Reading List, on the other hand, is a way to save specific web pages for offline reading and for later reference. This has nothing to do with news or RSS feeds or following shared links, and it belongs in the browser, not a separate app. Here the user is in complete control over what gets saved, and that is generally the result of an active web browsing session, not information that has been pushed by the source.

Personally, I have little use for Safari's Shared Links. Unlike a good Twitter or RSS reader app, it provides no way to group or filter your subscribed feeds into categories or lists. So the result is an uncontrollable firehose of information that is impossible to digest. The only ways I could see Shared Links being useful are 1) if you perform a keyword search for a specific topic or 2) if you only subscribe to a handful of RSS and Twitter sources.
 
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Mercifull said:
A magazine, newspaper or website is already "curated" to some extent. Just look at the different way news is presented on FOX compared to BBC or The Daily Mail to the Daily Star.
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Yes, and that's why people pick and choose different news sources. But having an extra layer of curation from a single gatekeeper (in this case Apple) is potentially troubling. In an ideal world, the single point of curation would know exactly what you want or don't want to see and would curate content for you accordingly. In a worst case scenario, it could be misused to alter both the editorial intent of the news sources and the wishes of the reader.
 
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Looks good but the problem with these Apps is usually too much stuff you didn't really intend to read and not enough of the really important stuff. Simply not enough time in the day to get through it all. Eg Flipboard, which I like, but find I rarely use. This looks like it could be a good RSS reader though.
 
Codestud said:
As far as I'm concerned, this is another app I can't uninstall that will be immediately shuffled into my "Unwanted Apple apps" folder. I already have a News app which I trust.

Apple should not dilute its focus by being in the news business in any way, and instead they should be focusing on the quality of both their core operating system and other existing apps which need to be fixed.
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I couldn't agree more.

This is just Tim Cook's way of trying to indoctrinate everyone in his odious politics. Presumably, he'll ban any news articles that feature a Comfederate flag.
 
It looks like there will be a desktop portion. You can see that by AirDropping one of the News stories to a mac. It loads a page on Apple.com that says News is coming this fall. So perhaps it will be web based for the desktop?
 
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When I see this video, my heart aches. How lucky American people is. You should know it's not so easy for Chinese to freely use whatever news app as Americans. Google news app, Flipboard, or whatever gorgeous news app, either blocked or semi-blocked in China. Even when I visit this macrumors.com website, I use a proxy server, and the network speed irritates me. How lucky, white people.
 
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seriously the amount of trolls jumping into comment without reading the article and watching the video.. sigh....its seriously sickening.

half the trolls are like "if we cant add RSS we wont use", "does it have custom RSS" etc. The other half "curated... ooooohh...", "Apple pushing propaganda", "NO FOX NEWS".. oh and lets not forget the "Tim Cook and his odious politics" type comments.

C'mon, please read the damn article and see the video, don't just see the title of the article and jump into the comments with the first "Apple sucks" comment you can think of. This happens in almost every article.

Firstly, its BETA. Secondly, you can add your own RSS if you want. Thirdly any new app which presents a selection to the user IS by definition curated. If you don't want Apple to push its "whatever wing propaganda" onto your poor naive innocent, uncorrupted ass; then Add your frikin' RSS, favourite and save them and use that. I would understand if they didn't allow you that but they clearly do and all these fake whiners are just Apple bashing for fun. I don't know, it must be a favourite past-time from where they come from.

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Codestud said:
As far as I'm concerned, this is another app I can't uninstall that will be immediately shuffled into my "Unwanted Apple apps" folder. I already have a News app which I trust.

Apple should not dilute its focus by being in the news business in any way, and instead they should be focusing on the quality of both their core operating system and other existing apps which need to be fixed.
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Yes indeed, the ONE engineer at Apple should just shuffle along and do just what you ordered him to do... (sic).
As for the hiding of one app, which probably takes 10-20MB at most and will be of use to 90% of us out there, well isn't that a big ol' chore... One second. You do know that creating integrated solutions inside its ecosystem is part of Apple's attractiveness to most users don't you? It's also part of its very DNA.
 
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