I had the same “give me one time purchases or give me death” sentiments as many here, but I’ve grown to appreciate the ability subscriptions give to jump ship when an app’s updates start to flag or are outstripped by a newcomer. It’s also handy for occasional needs, such as only paying for flight tracking apps during busy travel periods, and I feel much less guilty expecting fast responses to bug reports (whether or not that’s reasonable.) Of course, I only have a handful of relatively cheap subscription apps, and now that I’ve said that the rest of them will probably start trying to bill me…
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Hands-On With Final Cut Pro for iPad
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Good video. Glad that the apps are now available on iPad. Would have liked to have a one time purchase option.
NOPE, 100% greed by Apple, there is no reason Apple at this point cannot afford to keep 2 apps once off purchase... 2nd the mark up also known as the Apple Tax is huge, the ipad is way "over taxed" no way it is a $1700 device, along with dongles and such... Subscription for apps is a scam, a fraud, cannot be justified, and I am hoping, praying, pleading for a massive lawsuit/class action to tackle this crime..and it is a crime, it is fraud and a scam!
Will stick to my MAC and keep away from these subscriptions.
It's just terribly that apple ads another tax on their software. You pay a **** ton for the computer and I liked that the ProSoftware comes with a one time purchase where all you have to do to keep it running is occasionally buy a expensive apple machine that can handle the current standards of video quality.
This is the next step of moving away from that. I am sick of everyone wanting to sell me a subscription of "just a coffee". You can get Luma Fusion for a fraction of the yearly sub price.
This is the next step of moving away from that. I am sick of everyone wanting to sell me a subscription of "just a coffee". You can get Luma Fusion for a fraction of the yearly sub price.
If what Appleinsider posted a couple weeks ago, that the launch of final cut pro on the ipad was done really early, instead of after WWDC 2024, the news release of FCP on the Ipad was done to find the internal leak is correct, then this explains everything that is wrong with the app at this point...
Apple needed something juicy to lure the leaked information, and everyone has been moaning about the lack of final cut on the ipad, so Apple already developing this app, must have decided that this makes the most sense, it was so strange, 4 weeks from WWDC, that they released the news of FCP on the ipad..
The app is very far from complete, from all the reviews and comments, the number 1 issue, the lack of editing off the SSD, you have to ingest.. that I am sure was something Apple would have liked to have spent more time on before launch yesterday 23rd May 2023...
Subscriptions for the app makes no sense, as only 2 apps are on this model, the main apps, Final Cut/Logic are not, I am really confused by this approach, why not the keynote/Numbers/Pages subscription??? Why charge at all, after all in order to use the apps, you need Apple hardware, mac desktops/laptops/ipads/iphone of some description...So you buy the laptop, you get keynote, etc, but not FCP/Logic, and now you have to pay a ransom to use the app..
That is a low blow, below the belt, very unsporting, the Apple laptops/ipads are really expensive, less so in the USA as compared to South America, Africa, poorer parts of Asia...India.. Not everyone can afford the $2000 or more for a decent ipad to use with final cut....
The app is badly designed from what I have seen, a hatchet job, a lot of work has to be done to fix all the problems, it is not an app that should have been published in 2023, it was definitely only for 2024 release.
Apple needed something juicy to lure the leaked information, and everyone has been moaning about the lack of final cut on the ipad, so Apple already developing this app, must have decided that this makes the most sense, it was so strange, 4 weeks from WWDC, that they released the news of FCP on the ipad..
The app is very far from complete, from all the reviews and comments, the number 1 issue, the lack of editing off the SSD, you have to ingest.. that I am sure was something Apple would have liked to have spent more time on before launch yesterday 23rd May 2023...
Subscriptions for the app makes no sense, as only 2 apps are on this model, the main apps, Final Cut/Logic are not, I am really confused by this approach, why not the keynote/Numbers/Pages subscription??? Why charge at all, after all in order to use the apps, you need Apple hardware, mac desktops/laptops/ipads/iphone of some description...So you buy the laptop, you get keynote, etc, but not FCP/Logic, and now you have to pay a ransom to use the app..
That is a low blow, below the belt, very unsporting, the Apple laptops/ipads are really expensive, less so in the USA as compared to South America, Africa, poorer parts of Asia...India.. Not everyone can afford the $2000 or more for a decent ipad to use with final cut....
The app is badly designed from what I have seen, a hatchet job, a lot of work has to be done to fix all the problems, it is not an app that should have been published in 2023, it was definitely only for 2024 release.
Cannot agree more, it is criminal the "tax" or mark up Apple puts on products, then the silly design decisions to use dongles instead of built in ports, then now subscription for broken apps... How in 2023 can Apple justify no external SSD can be used for editing, you have to edit only after ingesting... Plus plus what the duck is Apple thinking putting FCP on the ipad on a 64GB ipad??? Just how many seconds of media in a multi-cam can this 8GB RAM 11 inch ipad edit?? Someone at Apple was really out to sea...
The most ironic or tragic thing is that FCP was never the app it was meant to be, Randy Ubilos designed an app to get around a problem he had in final cut pro 7, not being able to skim, it was a pain to open a clip, skim, close, open, close, so he designed the app as a front end to final cut pro 7, so you could skim through, make ranges, this is then ingested into final cut pro 7...
Steve Jobs loved the idea, and that was how we are blessed/cursed with final cut pro..as it is today, it was never meant to be final cut, and I can only wonder, if Steve just said yes to it being the front end to a new app, and not replacement... I wonder, and it feels that there is a lot missing..FCP X, now just FCP feels incomplete..
Steve Jobs loved the idea, and that was how we are blessed/cursed with final cut pro..as it is today, it was never meant to be final cut, and I can only wonder, if Steve just said yes to it being the front end to a new app, and not replacement... I wonder, and it feels that there is a lot missing..FCP X, now just FCP feels incomplete..
As per my previous post, I see these on the Mac at some point in the future given Catalyst and Apple Silicon. But at this point in time it doesn't seem the best choice or value given MacBooks are just as portable and run a 'better' version of the apps with more plugins. Which might be why it's only $5. When these apps gets further along in development and are genuinely equal or better than the Mac apps then that $5 will go north. Something will need to be worked out for studios with offline machines if these do come to the Mac as I suspect. Also, as a UK resident fed up of Apples conversion rates... $5 is not £5.
Darth Tulhu
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Great entry point for amateurs and semi pros. A month is a LONG TIME when trying an app out and/or dipping your toe in the (mobile) editing waters.
I used to dislike subscriptions, but it is the way forward and FAR more accessible to more people when priced like this.
Maybe it's time to let the old ways die.
I used to dislike subscriptions, but it is the way forward and FAR more accessible to more people when priced like this.
Maybe it's time to let the old ways die.
Maybe it’s time to stand up to large corporations with lousy business models and poorly designed products. I’m buycotting this crappy rentware product.
That is what I am trying to do, I am so tired of the bs unfit for use products from Apple, a 13 inch macbook air is not a laptop, it is a toy, a pro laptop, means professional, designed for professionals, with drop out batteries, loads of ports, HDMI, USB, USB C, expandable RAM, external eGPU, that sort of thing, at a reasonable price, $2000 for an ipad is unreasonable, it is 100% greed, there cannot be any reason ipads with 1TB storage and 32GB of RAM is not more than $499... Apple would sell more ipads in 1 year with that spec than Ford sold ever, from 1980 to 2023.. But no, low volume sales, I wonder why...
I will say it again, subscription for fcp on ipad is a scam, a con job, a snow job, a 100% pure fraud, there can be no justification for charging rent for software that does not work... The app is useless for basically anyone.. I have yet to figure out out or what Apple was thinking, a 64GB SSD ipad with 8GB RAM running fcp on ipad? How? Just how many seconds of 2K video streams in a multi-cam can you fit on 64GB, a lot less with all the millions of lower thirds and what what that gets installed....
Apple has no idea what they are doing, FCP on the ipad is a fraud, it is basically fake software, the sole reason it exists was to catch a leaker within Apple, apart from that it serves no usefulness.. Apple could have bought any one of 2 dozen vendors, Lumafusion... Lumafusion does a better job than the Apple inhouse project...
So how is FCP on ipad not a con job??? A scam??
Darth Tulhu
macrumors 68020
So, trying it out for 30 days free and $4 a month after that is too much for you, unfair, etc.?
OK, B.
Boycott away. Let's see if the market agrees with you a few months/years from release.
Darth Tulhu
macrumors 68020
Two reasons:
1. You get a 30-day FREE trial.
2. Because all of it: the iPad, the Software, the Subscription...
...is optional.
No tricks. Try it. If you don't like it, don't pay. That's pretty frakking far from a scam.
I will not do a subscription. That said, I just purchased a 12.9” 128gb new IPP with magic keyboard for a total of about $1300. I got the keyboard on sale at $250 and got a veteran’s price for the 12.9” at about $970. Don’t know where you got the $1700 price from unless you got it fully packed with 500gb. I also don’t understand the scam part. Just don’t do subscriptions… I certainly don’t but can understand why programmers are going that way.
Raw Power is not even close to Aperture. The only application that comes close is Adobe Lightroom. I have tried just about every alternative for Aperture. None of the free ones come even close. Apart from Adobe Lightroom, none of the paid ones come close either. At least, not given how I used Aperture, and how I use Adobe Lightroom. For photo editing there are many alternatives. Raw Power is certainly one of them. But the strengt of Aperture was (for me) the ability to organize images. Raw Power provides the basics, but doesn't come anywhere close for me.
It's quite amazing to see that they even forgot to remove it from their website: